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Re:Training of Physical Neural Networks by hansworst on Wednesday July 10, 2024 @02:58PM (#40930201)
The way the brain does it is by giving users a largely untrained model that they themselves have to train over the next 20 years for it to be of any use.
Re:Training of Physical Neural Networks by lynx23 on Thursday July 11, 2024 @04:24AM (#40934662)
20 years of training is not enough. Neuroscientists say 25. According to my own experience, its more like 30.
Re:Training of Physical Neural Networks by dcuthbertson on Thursday July 11, 2024 @02:00PM (#40939062)
In the end, it's a life-long process.
Re:Training of Physical Neural Networks by wbillingsley on Thursday July 11, 2024 @04:38AM (#40934719)
Sometimes. Foals are born (almost) able to walk. There are occasions where evolution baked the model into the genes.
Re:Training of Physical Neural Networks by tomxor on Friday July 12, 2024 @11:34AM (#40946529)
Yeah that example came to my mind too.

I suspect there may be trade off undergoing evolutionary selection here, where for some organisms a behaviour is more important from the offset, it's worth encoding more of the behaviour into genes, at what cost I wonder?

It's also possible there is some other mechanism going on at an embryonic stage, a kind of pre-training.

I suspect some of the division is also defined by how complex the task is, or how sensitive the model is to it's own neurons (kind of like PNN). I don't have a well rounded argument, but my instinct is that encoding or pre-training walking is far easier than seeing. Not to mention basic quadrupedal walking/standing is far easier than bipedal, they can learn the more complex coordinated movements after.

Re:Training of Physical Neural Networks by salomonk_mur on Thursday July 11, 2024 @05:03AM (#40934814)
It is extremely trained already. Everyone alive was born with the ability for all their organs and bodily function to work autonomously.

A ton of that is probably encoded elsewhere, but no doubt the brain plays a huge part. And somehow, it's all reconstructed for each new "device".