Re:Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures
by simonw on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @07:00PM
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That "politically vulnerable" point is good. Almost all public transit ends up heavily subsidized, so the argument for free is that it's not a huge difference, and it reduces the costs involved in collecting fees / enforcement etc. But yeah, it's easier for political winds to blow against it.
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Re:Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures
by brailsafe on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @09:03PM
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I'd add that it wouldn't be so outlandish to assume that any superficially and widely agreeable movement might just be astroturfing, considering how cheap and easy it is to persuade people in general, but also specifically by making them think everyone else feels the same, and how often the arguments just parrot whatever the various internet personalities happen to be saying about it without any additional insight.
Re:Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures
by bobthepanda on Tuesday July 09, 2024 @10:58PM
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It is generally not a huge difference in small systems like you find in college towns.
It is a pretty substantial portion of most major transit agency budgets; BART for example has a farebox recovery of about a third. If you were to totally make it free you would need to basically increase the other sources of funding by 50%.
Re:Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures
by kjkjadksj on Wednesday July 10, 2024 @11:34AM
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LA metro fairbox recovery is like 5% fwiw. Look up median income levels too on that system and you might be inclined to slash fares.
Re:Tokyo's oldest train line – in pictures
by bobthepanda on Thursday July 11, 2024 @12:16PM
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the argument has always been, is it better to spend that 5% on making it free, or is it better to spend that on making services more useful so that people actually switch to it?
The cost is not really the reason LA Metro ridership is so low and farebox recovery is so low.