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Re:Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy ... by shiroiushi on Friday July 05, 2024 @04:10AM (#40880744)
>And I find it odd when people call me on WhatsApp.

Given that you're European, do you not have any friends/family outside your country, in neighboring EU countries? Wouldn't they have to pay high per-minute rates to call you?

Re:Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy ... by arkh on Friday July 05, 2024 @04:26AM (#40880840)
https://mobile.free.fr/fiche-forfait-free

Example from one provider: nope with 100 countries. Including the US, Canada, China etc.

Re:Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy ... by usr1106 on Friday July 05, 2024 @04:58AM (#40881028)
In Finland I see the opposite problem. Traditional calling is dead, so there is absolutely no competition on international calls.

National calls and calls to nordic and Baltic countries are typically included in the subscription. But once you have to call to let's say central Europe per minute rates are exorbitant compared to today's data volume pricing.

Re:Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy ... by shiroiushi on Friday July 05, 2024 @04:38AM (#40880911)
Looks expensive. What about the regular phone plans? For instance, the plan I use currently in Japan has high per-minute or per-SMS charges for international numbers. The trade-off, of course, is that it's dirt cheap as long as you don't call international numbers, and basically just use it for mobile data. In a place where everyone uses LINE for communication, this works well.
Re:Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy ... by bad_user on Friday July 05, 2024 @07:01AM (#40881727)
Inside the EU / EES we usually have minutes included.

Right now my plan, with Orange, costs 7.5 EUR / month with unlimited 5G (for real), 16 GB of data when roaming, unlimited minutes when roaming in EU/EES, and 600 international minutes in EU/EES. We do have great deals here, BTW, I'm sure it's more expensive in other EU countries.

I'd have to upgrade for another 100 minutes with US / Canada, however, I have another plan from Digi that charges per minute but that's dirt cheap.

I do have acquaintances from US with which I communicate primarily via WhatsApp, but I don't need it for my family within EU.

Re:Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy ... by ktosobcy on Saturday July 06, 2024 @05:02AM (#40889138)
> Inside the EU / EES we usually have minutes included.

Nowadays... but not so long ago it wasn't like that and the prices were abysmal. And considering that EU is somewhat smaller and there is higher chance of having international contacts make the IMs so popular (especially whatsapp)...

Re:Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy ... by bad_user on Thursday July 11, 2024 @01:29AM (#40933922)
You're right about prices being higher not long ago.

> EU is somewhat smaller

By area? The EU's population is larger than that of the US.

WhatsApp is indeed very popular for IM, and nowadays, SMS is basically just for 2FA (I hoped RCS would change that, but it's too little too late unfortunately).

Re:Twilio Confirms Data Breach After Hackers Leak 33M Authy ... by ktosobcy on Thursday July 11, 2024 @03:36AM (#40934464)
> By area? The EU's population is larger than that of the US.

Yes, by area, which second part of the sentence implied when I mentioned it's easier to end-up in different country without driving miles on end :)