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Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by rayiner on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @08:52AM (#40856148)
What does “democracy” mean to you? A country where people vote, but unelected bureaucrats and lawyers actually run things and will do what they think is best?

Hypothetical: Trump is campaigning on immigration. Say he wins the election and issues an executive order to deport every single illegal immigrant. What should happen, in a democracy?

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by dctoedt on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @01:11PM (#40858581)
> What does “democracy” mean to you? A country where people vote, but unelected bureaucrats and lawyers actually run things and will do what they think is best?

"People" generally don't have the expertise to run things in a complex modern world. Bureaucrats and lawyers aren't always better, but pace Damon Runyon (quoting sportswriter Hugh Keough), that's the way to bet. [0]

"Democracy" in a complex modern world means that "people" periodically get an opportunity to toss out the bureaucrats and lawyers — because ballots are better than bullets.

[0] "The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet." https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/04/race-swift/#google_...

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by rayiner on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @11:47PM (#40862568)
The problem isn’t that bureaucrats and lawyers are exercising their expertise. It’s that they’re elevating their moral and political ideologies above their jobs and institutions. They need to shut up and dribble.
Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by 20after4 on Tuesday July 02, 2024 @04:06PM (#40859983)
In the united states, the people get to influence things through their representatives in congress, not through unlimited executive power.

I don't believe that congress is doing a good job representing the people but I don't think that the solution to that is to elect a king.

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by throwaway7ahgb on Wednesday July 03, 2024 @08:48AM (#40865460)
When the president uses the power of the executive branch to enforce an ideology you agree with = democracy.

When you disagree with the ideology = king.

How does that make sense?

Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic... by 20after4 on Sunday July 07, 2024 @03:06PM (#40899690)
I don't think the president should be above the law. I think most presidents have committed crimes and I'd like to see them face more scrutiny not less.