Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic...
by BeFlatXIII on Monday July 01, 2024 @04:09PM
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> no court in the US has jurisdiction for the president to be prosecuted
Nevermind that the order was given by a US official, presumably on US soil.
Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic...
by nostromo on Monday July 01, 2024 @04:08PM
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> as he was murdered in a foreign country, no court in the US has jurisdiction for the president to be prosecuted
You're underestimating the creativity of prosecutors. :)
For example, they could have charged him with conspiracy to commit murder in any location where Obama met with others to discuss killing al-Awlaki.
Or a future president, like Trump, could have pressured a federal prosecutors to bring charges in Federal Court, since they can bring charges for crimes committed against Americans globally.
Re:Supreme Court rules ex-presidents have immunity for offic...
by overboard2 on Monday July 01, 2024 @05:19PM
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Wikipedia says he was a higher up in al-Qaeda. All things considered, it doesn't seem like that much of a human rights violation.
Another topic that hasn't come up quite as much is the fact that this is an immunity proposition, not a defense. What SCOTUS is saying is that we aren't permitted to even ask if the president is reasonable in his beliefs; any trial on the merits is completely and totally foreclosed--that's what immunity means. Just a few days ago, SCOTUS decided that it's absolutely important that administrative law procedures need to go through the step of being heard by a jury trial, and now here it's saying that it's absolutely important that the president never be burdened by the prospect of having to have a jury weigh their actions.
It's just... really galling that SCOTUS would decide that the constitution requires that the president be a king above the law, exactly the sort of thing that England fought a few civil wars over before the US even sought its independence.