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Re:How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed by oooyay on Monday July 01, 2024 @10:43AM (#40846287)
You certainly don't need a cloud defaulted device in order to do what you describe. There are plenty of assistants, Google and Alexa being two, that can talk to things on your local network with a REST API. That controller also has a gig of memory, plenty enough to run a little API.

What manufacturers like about cloud enabled devices is that they can automatically upgrade the firmware and they can get semi-accurate counts for usage.

Re:How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed by nanidin on Monday July 01, 2024 @11:44AM (#40846918)
They also like the possibility of future MRR.
Re:How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed by ufmace on Monday July 01, 2024 @12:50PM (#40847632)
I think this goes right back to the parent's point.

I presume you personally could set that up. I probably could too. But 99% of the world isn't tech experts and can't do that. Or fix it if something goes wrong. Even if you can, you might just want to go to bed and not have to debug a broken assistant integration first.

The benefit of cloud integration, for that 99%, is that there is a professional out there to keep it working.

Re:How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed by oooyay on Monday July 01, 2024 @12:57PM (#40847711)
Maybe. My point is that there wasn't really an attempt at solving those things locally first. They just went straight to cloud with the reasoning you mentioned.
Re:How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed by beardedmoose on Monday July 01, 2024 @02:41PM (#40848941)
Until they just decide to stop supporting it one day until you buy a new $4k bed.
Re:How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed by mgkimsal on Monday July 01, 2024 @02:51PM (#40849073)
A friend of mine spent $10k on a sleep number bed a couple years ago. I'm not sure I could ever get a restful night sleep again on a $10k bed, thinking about the cost! ;)

I got a fancy new one a bit later with an adjustable frame and remote control and all that... $2200, and even that felt crazy expensive!

Re:How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed by ufmace on Monday July 01, 2024 @03:06PM (#40849304)
Well yeah. But:

1. That's exactly why I prefer a plain old analog mattress that needs zero tech or support from anyone ever

2. Even with that being the case, for the average consumer who wants an electronic/controllable bed, it's still a better deal than anything that requires a custom home automation setup. Check out the prices for hiring somebody who can actually troubleshoot that.

Re:How to get root access to your Sleep Number bed by nox101 on Monday July 01, 2024 @01:49PM (#40848280)
> What manufacturers like about cloud enabled devices is that they can automatically upgrade the firmware and they can get semi-accurate counts for usage.

What they like is that they can charge you a recurring subscription for "service"