You can usually remove the NSFW stuff with some negative prompting.

IMO finetuning is a waste of time unless you do cutting edge stuff.

Loras are just as powerful as a finetuned model and you can train one in minutes even on consumer hardware.

> Loras are just as powerful as a finetuned model and you can train one in minutes even on consumer hardware.

Do you have some more details on training a LoRA in minutes? Last I tried, it took several hours on an RTX 3090, but I am sure there have been improvements since then.

Not really, but there are lots of guides around, for example https://civitai.com/models/351583/sdxl-pony-fast-training-gu...

Tbh I mostly use loras others trained, there are hundreds around for all kinds of things

Where does that idea come from? Models can generalise well - if you request photorealistic animals dressed in something specific, you'll get it even though there's likely no training image with that example. People wear enough close fitting clothes that the general form is easy to find.

I first heard the "we need naked images to generate good clothed images" when SD3 came out and suddenly it's everywhere. But it just doesn't make any sense to me and as far as I know it wasn't explicitly practiced in previous popular models.

Why would you do this?

Because when I’m generating photographs I don’t want to create something with grotesque hands that are melting in with their other hand, or their face, while still having a model that is not meant for porn generation?

You seem to be equating nudity with pornography, though. I tend to generate images that are nudes first in order to get aspects such as lighting and environment correct. Then i is may or may not add clothing.

Is this process objectionable to you? If so, why?

It’s also possible I’m simply misunderstanding what you’re objecting to.

I’m not “objecting” to anything, it’s just that companies putting out a model capable of generating nudity would invoke some controversy they’d rather be out of.