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Re:Crypto breakthrough shows Flame was designed by world-cla... by stcredzero on Thursday June 07, 2012 @03:30PM (#4080894)
you don't get world class cryptanalysts and mathematicians working on such a specific endeavor out of "determination"

In World War II, you had such in Poland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Rejewski (Who deserves some of the credit for cracking Enigma and thus for the outcome of World War II.)

What you can get for lots of money, you can also get for patriotism and somewhat less money. There are over 30 countries with populations over 40 million. Most of these are industrialized. The odds are that they've produced the requisite mathematical talent. The only question is if they've been able to retain and apply it.

Re:Crypto breakthrough shows Flame was designed by world-cla... by batista on Thursday June 07, 2012 @03:40PM (#4080954)
Yes, but I was talking in context here. The level of patriotism you had in Poland in World War II, is nothing like the (far lower) level of patriotism you get of scientists in affluent modern states in no immediate danger.

Plus, the rest of the context is the target of the attack and precedence. Given those constraints, one can only thing of 2 such states. And it's not like those "30 countries with populations over 40 million" are not spied to death already, or that they had foreign policy autonomy on the level of making such attacks without asking consent from a certain power.

Re:Crypto breakthrough shows Flame was designed by world-cla... by stcredzero on Thursday June 07, 2012 @03:57PM (#4081042)
One of those countries is Iran. That said, Japan prior to and during World War II knew of its pressing need, had plenty of patriotism to draw upon, had high levels of education and infrastructure, and still failed to compete in that area.