What did you mean? Where did I even come close to doing that?

Sorry, I meant as a response to your question. But point is, software at European non-software companies gets grouped in with IT. Treated as a support team rather than a revenue team, with salaries to match.

But this can't be true for VW, which set up an entire company to do software for cars, which has nothing to do with providing IT or was ever viewed as a "support team".