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Re: by seoulmetro on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:07PM (#40794728)
>If these Korean apps were so good, you would expect them to penetrate foreign markets. But they don't.

Dumb reasoning. Their apps are targeted at Korean life on purpose. Their app being good or bad is irrelevant.

The reason American apps penetrate the world usually is because America is a superpower that has almost colonised the web.

Re: by kevin_thibedeau on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:16PM (#40795170)
Nothing prevented Switzerland from colonizing the web first. If Europe was a VC friendly environment it would be ahead in everything.
Re: by jampekka on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:49PM (#40795346)
Everything probably including incarceration rate, homelessness and mass shootings.
Re: by SuperNinKenDo on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @10:13PM (#40795770)
This doesn't really fit with the way the US government ensured dominance of its tech sector globally in the 80s, 90s, and even early 2000s. It was not a fair competition by any stretch of the imagination and involved a lot of strong-arming by the US government abusing its leverage.
Re: by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @12:35AM (#40796415)
Maybe somebody else should have invented the transistor, integrated circuit, and internet first. They didn't.
Re: by SuperNinKenDo on Saturday June 29, 2024 @10:12PM (#40834675)
As if those were sufficient or necessary. Even a passing familiarity with the history of computing would show that these had little effect. A deep understanding would reveal what actually did.
Re: by seoulmetro on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @01:03AM (#40796566)
Right. Instead the US colonised the internet. What's your point?
Re: by lupusreal on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @12:22PM (#40801669)
*created

The internet wasn't some terra nullius that America took over.

Re: by seoulmetro on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @07:26PM (#40805699)
You can create something and have it be colonised too.
Re: by lupusreal on Thursday June 27, 2024 @09:34AM (#40810335)
If you created it, then you're not colonizing it in any meaningful sense of the word (you are using the word to invoke implications of historical atrocities, etc.)
Re: by seoulmetro on Thursday June 27, 2024 @06:45PM (#40816002)
You can't create all of it, that's the point. But you can create it, and colonise everything else that others create.

>(you are using the word to invoke implications of historical atrocities, etc.)

No, I'm using it to invoke it's actual definition and the meaning it holds. Not everyone is an American political weirdo.

Re: by consumer451 on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:22PM (#40794823)
> The reason American apps penetrate the world usually is because America is a superpower that has almost colonised the web.

I live in the USA and EU, and the reason that I prefer a Samsung display in almost all cases is because it is the best product. Korea has not colonized us, but the product is often superior, so that is why I buy it.

Why is it that Korean software cannot do the same? I find it very interesting, and I mean to ask this in a very neutral/curious way.

Re: by shiroiushi on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:19PM (#40795180)
>I live in the USA and EU, and the reason that I prefer a Samsung display in almost all cases is because it is the best product.

No way, LG displays are better.

(In case it's not obvious, there's a joke here.)

Re: by seoulmetro on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @07:28PM (#40794868)
Yes. Samsung created the best product for all eyes.

That's not the same for most internet apps.

They can do the same, they don't want to nor need to.

Re: by fmj on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:41PM (#40795301)
Now that you bring it up, I can't recall ever (knowingly) using a piece of Korean software that wasn't a game or baked into a phone's firmware. Does seem kind of odd considering how much Korean hardware there is in my life.
Re: by teen on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @04:02AM (#40797467)
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Re: by abdullahkhalids on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @08:50PM (#40795349)
TVs for most of their existence were simple devices, with mostly a few different consumer relevant parameters, which were mostly objective.

Apps on the other hand strongly reflect the philosophy of usage, control, privacy etc, and the design aesthetic of their creators. Different countries/cultures have radically different philosophies, and old countries have aesthetics that go back thousands of years. Using apps from the creators of a different culture almost certainly causes significant friction with your own culture's philosophy and aesthetics.

To give a related example. I don't know Korea, but many in the English speaking world are marginally know of Japanese TV shows - you know with the crazy antics. Imagine that you were forced to consume only that form of TV, and how jarring that would be compared to your own philosophical and aesthetic inclinations. The same with Apps.

Re: by doyoulikecheese on Tuesday June 25, 2024 @11:59PM (#40796246)
> The reason American apps penetrate the world usually is because America is a superpower that has almost colonised the web.

Love how the word "colonise" is thrown out without any thought.

Please tell us one example where America enacted a hostile takeover of a Korean site, and extracted its resources solely for the benefit of American interests.

Re: by seoulmetro on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @01:00AM (#40796542)
I thought about it, then I used it. It pretty much stands (not literally of course).

>Please tell us one example where America enacted a hostile takeover of a Korean site

I don't think you understand what the word colonise means nor what my comment means...

Re: by doyoulikecheese on Thursday June 27, 2024 @01:59AM (#40807719)
Agreed, I was wrong.