Domino's retreats from Italy having failed to conquer the home of pizza (2022)

Re:Domino's retreats from Italy having failed to conquer the... by JumpCrisscross on Sunday June 23, 2024 @06:29PM (#40771155)

> it got to America at the beginning of the 20th century almost a century after pizza restaurants were born in Naples

Everything you’ve said is correct. The question is whether 19th-century Neapolitan pizza would be recognised, by Italians, as pizza today. The answer is a solid maybe. In Napoli, yes. Elsewhere, including in America, much less certainly.

Note that I’m not suggesting people would think it’s not related to proper pizza. But if you told the average Roman or Venetian about New Jersey tomato pie [1], they’re likely to react as they would to Hawaiian pizza. Even though that product resembles pizza marinara quite closely. (Even when baked on a bubbling versus rising dough.)

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trenton_tomato_pie

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Re:Domino's retreats from Italy having failed to conquer the... by bonzini on Monday June 24, 2024 @12:19PM (#40777909)

Seems pretty interesting and pizza-ish (unlike Chicago pizza which is only interesting). Yeah, I would call it focaccia al pomodoro perhaps. But if you consider that New York-style pizza is commonly sold by bakeries in Italy, and it's considered to be pizza (it's simply called "tall" pizza, and I think it's an independent reinvention but don't quote me on that), I think 19th century Neapolitan pizza would be okay in the rest of Italy as well.

On the other hand, Hawaiian pizza is definitely pizza, the question is only whether the topping makes a good combination.

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