Re:Andrew S. Tanenbaum Receives ACM Software System Award
by sillywalk on Saturday June 22, 2024 @04:11PM
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AIUI Sel4 is just a kernel, so adding all the "management engine crap" - networking stacks, drivers etc. would be a lot of work. Minix came with 'batteries' included.
Re:Andrew S. Tanenbaum Receives ACM Software System Award
by michh on Saturday June 22, 2024 @01:44PM
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As to why, no idea. I guess some engineer was just familiar with it from their undergrad days like the rest of us.
And which version, I know it’s MINIX 3 but beyond that? No idea. They probably heavily modified it and as Minix is not GPL, Intel never published it. Based on the timelines it’s likely 3.1 as the ME platform has heen around since approximately 2007 iirc.
Re:Andrew S. Tanenbaum Receives ACM Software System Award
by Rochus on Saturday June 22, 2024 @02:07PM
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> it’s likely 3.1 as the ME platform has heen around since approximately 2007
Then I guess it's one of the 3.1.3x versions released in 2007 (see https://github.com/Stichting-MINIX-Research-Foundation/minix...), or maybe 3.1.2 from 2006, depending how long hey had to implement the ME.
Re:Andrew S. Tanenbaum Receives ACM Software System Award
by looperhacks on Saturday June 22, 2024 @02:17PM
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The original L4 (I believe) wasn't commercially available und sel4 is GPL licensed. Minix has a BSD license, so maybe that's why
Re:Andrew S. Tanenbaum Receives ACM Software System Award
by LeFantome on Saturday June 22, 2024 @03:53PM
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100% because of the license
Re:Andrew S. Tanenbaum Receives ACM Software System Award
by Rochus on Saturday June 22, 2024 @06:09PM
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The original L4 was written in assembler and replaced by different other implementations long before the ME platform was developed. Pistachio was in development around that time and available under BSD.
Re:Andrew S. Tanenbaum Receives ACM Software System Award
by snvzz on Saturday June 22, 2024 @02:44PM
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Besides what others pointed out, Minix3 is engineered for fault tolerance foremost. seL4 has different goals.
Re:Andrew S. Tanenbaum Receives ACM Software System Award
by actionfromafar on Saturday June 22, 2024 @01:34PM
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Or Minix 2?
Which version of Minix did they actually use? There is Minix v3.1 (released in 2005 with the book), 3.2 (released in 2012) and 3.3 (released in 2014).