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Re:The Engineer Who Refused to Approve the Challenger Launch by psunavy03 on Friday June 21, 2024 @04:35PM (#40753530)
The IG is an independent entity which exists to investigate misconduct and fraud/waste/abuse. There are Inspectors General at all levels from local bases up to the Secretary of Defense, and they have confidential reporting hotlines. The only thing worse for a commander than having shenanigans be substantiated at an IG investigation is to have been found to tolerate retaliation against the reporters.

Generally about every month or two, a Navy commanding officer gets canned for "loss of confidence in his/her ability to command." They aren't bulletproof, quite the opposite. And leaving out cases of alcohol misuse and/or sexual misconduct, other common causes are things within the IG's purview.

Re:The Engineer Who Refused to Approve the Challenger Launch by buildsjets on Friday June 21, 2024 @05:55PM (#40754254)
It sounds like a certain commercial aircraft manufacturer that starts with a B and ends with an oeing could really use an effective Inspector General system.
Re:The Engineer Who Refused to Approve the Challenger Launch by theK on Saturday June 22, 2024 @03:41AM (#40757208)
Probably. The biggest blind spot internal auditors have is things that didn't leave a paper trail.

It is too common that such investigations don't even start because there is just one connecting piece of evidence missing.

Leave a paper trail people!

Re:The Engineer Who Refused to Approve the Challenger Launch by jiggawatts on Friday June 21, 2024 @07:46PM (#40755010)
Much more realistically:

Individual A reports a unique or rare problem. Everyone knows it is reported by person A.

Nothing is done.

Person A reports the problem "anonymously" to some third party, which raises a stink about the problem.

Now everyone knows that person A reported the problem to the third party.

This is why I (almost) never blow the whistle. It's an automatic career-ending move, and any protections are make-believe at best.

Re:The Engineer Who Refused to Approve the Challenger Launch by psunavy03 on Friday June 21, 2024 @10:58PM (#40755878)
Then Person A needs to haul their butt to the Defense Service Office, call their Member of Congress, and tell the "anonymous" hotline that they've been retaliated against.

I'm not pretending this is some magic ticket to puppy-rainbow-fairy land where retaliation never occurs, but ultimately, how much do you care about your shipmates? I had a CPO once as one of my direct reports committing major misconduct and threatening my shop with retaliation if they reported it. I could have helped crush the bastard if someone had come forward to me, but no one ever did until I'd turned over the division to someone else, after which it blew up. Sure, he eventually got found out, but still. He was a great con artist and he pulled the wool over my eyes, but all I'd have needed is one person cluing me in to that snake.

Speaking from the senior officer level, we're not all some cabal trying to sweep shit under the rug. And the IGs, as much as they're feared, aren't out to nail people to the wall who haven't legitimately done bad things. I'm sorry you've had the experience you've had, but that doesn't mean that everyone above you was some big blue wall willing to protect folks who've done wrong.

Re:The Engineer Who Refused to Approve the Challenger Launch by johnnyanmac on Saturday June 22, 2024 @06:47AM (#40757964)
heck, you're in the ship too. I'll take all the retalitation if I get to keep breathing. If they wanna kick me out over saving my own skin, fine. Saves me from deserting.
Re:The Engineer Who Refused to Approve the Challenger Launch by jjmarr on Saturday June 22, 2024 @12:59AM (#40756392)
The US Navy has over 300k active-duty personnel. I suppose it's easier to just go somewhere else where no-one knows who you are.
Re:The Engineer Who Refused to Approve the Challenger Launch by nativeit on Saturday June 22, 2024 @05:33AM (#40757659)
The person ignoring their subordinate’s reports to protect their own next promotion has entered the chat.