Re:Huawei unveils its own programming language the "Cangjie"
by jauntywundrkind on Friday June 21, 2024 @04:03PM
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Non-open source development seems incredibly hard to pull off. Apple is basically the one and only company that's not suffering too badly for doing their own thing.
> If they allow any dependence on a community that includes the West, it will be snatched away simply for the sake of damaging China.
I don't think the West cares, at all. In this issue in specific & in general. I'm in DC. We don't have jobs or openings to go screw with China here. Yeah, we go help our ally the Philippines when for example China is sending dudes with swords to attack resupply missions, and yeah there's some politics & optics, but the West would, I believe, love to see a successful & prosperous & healthy China rise, if it could do so without having to exploit or aggress to do so. The jobs in DC are to try to plan for & work towards a civil world. We don't have troll farms here. We don't have giant disinformation machines (well, to be fair we have Fox News & other machinery in the pockets of the ultra capitalists).
It's really hard for me to imagine what HarmonyOS sabotage would like. It's hard for me to imagine Apple or Google or Salesforce or Shopify or whomever going out of their way to go screw with a competing OS. I don't see the CIA or NSA or whomever taking action. I do think there probably is a bit of a fear/control based response Huawei is going through, but the risk of becoming ungovernable seems very low to me. You can still own and moderate an open source project, an open community. You can still steer your own open source effort.
It's so hard for me to imagine the kind of organic growth that leads to lasting success happening, if Huawei stays on such a narrow productized track for their OS. There's such a deep irony to me that the Western socialization of software has served us so so well, but so few other places seem to be able to recreate those values & get that same engagement & organic growth.
> If they allow any dependence on a community that includes the West, it will be snatched away simply for the sake of damaging China.
I don't think the West cares, at all. In this issue in specific & in general. I'm in DC. We don't have jobs or openings to go screw with China here. Yeah, we go help our ally the Philippines when for example China is sending dudes with swords to attack resupply missions, and yeah there's some politics & optics, but the West would, I believe, love to see a successful & prosperous & healthy China rise, if it could do so without having to exploit or aggress to do so. The jobs in DC are to try to plan for & work towards a civil world. We don't have troll farms here. We don't have giant disinformation machines (well, to be fair we have Fox News & other machinery in the pockets of the ultra capitalists).
It's really hard for me to imagine what HarmonyOS sabotage would like. It's hard for me to imagine Apple or Google or Salesforce or Shopify or whomever going out of their way to go screw with a competing OS. I don't see the CIA or NSA or whomever taking action. I do think there probably is a bit of a fear/control based response Huawei is going through, but the risk of becoming ungovernable seems very low to me. You can still own and moderate an open source project, an open community. You can still steer your own open source effort.
It's so hard for me to imagine the kind of organic growth that leads to lasting success happening, if Huawei stays on such a narrow productized track for their OS. There's such a deep irony to me that the Western socialization of software has served us so so well, but so few other places seem to be able to recreate those values & get that same engagement & organic growth.