they should do it in winter next time, god is also available at winter time.

Apparently there is good infrastructure in place, like air conditioned tents for pilgrims to cool down. Problem is that it is expensive to register as a pilgrim, so many people try to attend without registering (and have no access to tents etc). Most of those who died were not registered.

I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but...that comes across as a bit callus....I'm trying to imagine somebody who is cooking from the inside out trying to get into an air conditioned tent, and being denied. It's their own damn fault because they couldn't afford a ticket to do what ostensibly everybody around them thinks its God's will that they do....

Yes of course. I think for now, it’s a problem that could be solved with money - maybe rich Muslims could sponsor those who can’t afford the hajj? Definitely, everyone should have the chance to participate.

>maybe rich Muslims could sponsor those who can’t afford the hajj

uh,, thats not how it works

Rich Muslims include the Saudi government and royalty, who should feel somewhat responsible for the well-being of pilgrims.

Let's face it, who has benefitted the most from how the carbon dioxide got into the air in the first place...

A "Muslim" must be wealthy enough to pay for their own pilgrimage. That includes everything.

Either that or pilgrimage isnt due on them if they cant afford it

Do you mean that these people deserved to die because they were poor? Saving lives is a duty, not a luxury.

Only a matter of time before its too hot all year around.

I'm surprised that it never occurred to me that Saudi Arabia is going to be one of the first places on earth that will be uninhabitable. It is impossible to exaggerate the magnitude of the tragedy--the damage to world culture--it will be when Islam's holiest sites are too hot for human life. An absolutely irreplaceable loss. For everybody, not just muslims.

And man, we are not far off. If you have a temperature of 103 degrees, it is recommended you go to the doctor. If you have a temperature of 108 degrees, you risk permanent brain damage.

The human body cools itself by sweating--the evaporating water carries off the excess heat. But this process stops working at 95 degrees if the humidity is 50% or higher. 120 degrees and above it just stops working. You either find air conditioning or you literally (not metaphorically or hyperbolically--literally) cook to death.

Currently, the earth is warming at a rate of 1/3 degree per decade. Already it is dangerous to do the Hajj. The time when it will be impossible is IMMINENT. We simply can't let this happen.

I'm not so sure for two reasons:

1 - people know it's hot already in regions like these, and they are prepared for the most part (even with things like giant parasols, etc)

2 - I'm much more worried about places where the wet bulb temperature will shoot above the acceptable suddenly. This might be more sudden and in less prepared areas.

// they are prepared for the most part

...and yet the # of deaths is going up. Over 1,000 people! We are not talking about a disaster which might come, maybe, far in the future. The disaster is here, and its about to become a catastrophe!

Definitely, it is getting worse. And it will get even worse unfortunately

But the Hajj cases seem more predictable and more manageable (if the will was there of course).

What I'm afraid of is an unpredictable heat wave that comes and hits much harder in a densely populated area

If we are this bad at predictable heat, we are screwed on unpredictable heat.

1,000 people died. These days, we are so numb to big numbers (Elon Must buys Twitter for $40 billion, and gets $56 billion stock from Tesla!) that it's easy to just gloss over that....

But if a hurricane hit New York, and 1,000 people died in time's Square, it would be declared a major disaster. 1,000 people dead means tens of thousands of people in sadness and mourning.

for context: 52 C = 125,6 F