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Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by JumpCrisscross on Thursday June 20, 2024 @07:53AM (#40737625)
> the proposal got canned because Germany said they would vote against it

Both the far left and right in Germany are against this, correct?

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by eigenket on Thursday June 20, 2024 @07:59AM (#40737667)
I'm far from an expert in German politics, but there are obvious historical reasons why Germans like the idea of having a right to privacy.
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by JumpCrisscross on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:06AM (#40737732)
> there are obvious historical reasons why Germans like the idea of having a right to privacy

There are obvious historical reasons why they shouldn't try far-right, race-based politics, yet here we are [1].

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/rise-germanys-most-succ...

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by flawn on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:09AM (#40737764)
I don't even understand why people never look and understand the history that happened outside of their country. Just the sheer risk of having a society like in the DDR is reason enough to not do stuff like that.

We never learn (long-term) from the past.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by soco on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:16AM (#40737830)
A sizeable part of Germany is nostalgic after the good ole times, be it of 50 years ago or of 90 years ago. You can see them at the voting booths.
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Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by moe_sc on Thursday June 20, 2024 @09:02AM (#40738296)
Funny you'd say something like this, after somebody made a comment about "sizeable parts" and never an absolute statement.
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by DocTomoe on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:32AM (#40737982)
Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by pkos98 on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:05AM (#40737719)
two of the three coalition parties are against it - the greens and the FDP (the social democrats are in favour), thus the government doesnt support.

they are neither far left/right

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by JumpCrisscross on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:08AM (#40737749)
> they are neither far left/right

Are Linke and AfD are for chat control? They're by whom the coalition is being threatened.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by Tainnor on Thursday June 20, 2024 @11:19AM (#40739736)
The current government coalition is threatened by the CDU (centre-right), not by Linke (that has almost no voters left) or AfD (who no other party wants to form a coalition with).

The most likely outcome after the next election at this point looks like a coalition between the CDU and the Green party.

Unfortunately, CDU is probably in favour (they're pretty "law and order") and the Greens probably won't care enough to oppose strongly.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by DasIch on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:12AM (#40737789)
Die Linke (far left), Greens (left), FDP (socially liberal-ish but economically further right than CDU) and AFD (far right) are against it. SPD (left) is internally conflicted about this topic. CDU (right) is in favour.

So essentially everyone who isn't very into law and order type politics and cares about civil rights is against this, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. This is typical for such issues in Germany.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by nebalee on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:29AM (#40737948)
> So essentially everyone who isn't very into law and order type politics and cares about civil rights is against this, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum.

That does not apply to the afd.

Re:EU Council has withdrawn the vote on Chat Control by DocTomoe on Thursday June 20, 2024 @08:30AM (#40737968)
German parties always are against something until they are in power, then they magically have changed their minds or agree "with stomach pain"...