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Re:Ask HN: Can someone explain to me why all languages don't... by pg on Monday December 22, 2008 @11:47PM (#407286)
Do you think the CMUCL team who went on to make non-sexp based Dylan are just people who suck at programming?

No, but close. They were designing a language for other people who did. The original intention with Dylan was to create a Lisp that was made more accessible for mainstream programmers.

Ditto Guy Steele on Java: "we were not out to win over the Lisp programmers; we were after the C++ programmers. We managed to drag a lot of them about halfway to Lisp."

Re:Ask HN: Can someone explain to me why all languages don't... by rsheridan6 on Wednesday December 31, 2008 @08:50AM (#415437)
I didn't get to this in a timely manner due to a Christmas vacation, but I'll bite anyway.

I didn't know that Dylan was considered a LFM rather than a LFSP by its creators, but I do know that at least of them gets s-expressions and still thinks they're a bad idea. See Dave Moon's suggestion: http://www.archub.org/arcsug.txt