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Re:Ask HN: Why do message queue-based architectures seem les... by alfiedotwtf on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @04:01AM (#40725966)
This! You NEEDED to scale horizontally because machines were just doing too much. I remember when our Apache boxes couldn’t even cope doing SSL so we had a hardware box doing it on ingress!
Re:Ask HN: Why do message queue-based architectures seem les... by throwaway7ahgb on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @08:13AM (#40727517)
I used to administrate a small fleet of sun sparc hosts with SSL accelerators. They were so much money $$$$.

I proposed dumping them all for a smaller set of x86 hosts running linux, it took 2-3 years before the old admins believed in the performance and cost savings. They refused to believe it would even work.

Re:Ask HN: Why do message queue-based architectures seem les... by rastignack on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @08:37AM (#40727687)
I have the same memories, trying to convince people to dump slow as hell sparc processors for database workloads in favor of X86 machines costing a 10th of the price.

To this day I still argue with ex Solaris sysadmins.

Re:Ask HN: Why do message queue-based architectures seem les... by JeremyNT on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @09:32AM (#40728123)
I lived through that era too, it was wild to see how quickly x86 dethroned sparc (even Intel's big misses like Itanium were only minor bumps in the road).

Those days, you had to carefully architect your infrastructure and design your workload to deal with it, and every hardware improvement required you to reevaluate what you were doing. Hence novel architectural choices.

Everything is way easier for normal sized organizations now, and that level of optimization is just no longer required outside of companies doing huge scale.

Re:Ask HN: Why do message queue-based architectures seem les... by bjourne on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @05:12PM (#40732428)
15 years ago I ran a website (Django+Postgres+memcached) serving 50k unique daily visitors on a dirt cheap vps. Even back then the scalability issues were overstated.
Re:Ask HN: Why do message queue-based architectures seem les... by namaria on Thursday June 20, 2024 @04:43AM (#40736416)
As the stock market prices now expected future growth, architecture had to justify rising stock prices by promising future scalability.

It was never about the actual workloads, much more about growth projections. And a whole lot of cargo cult behavior.