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Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by scarface_74 on Monday June 17, 2024 @10:58PM (#40713655)
No part of the definition of “rent seeking” is selling your product directly to the end user who pays you money.
Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by zadokshi on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @12:37AM (#40714123)
Adobe doesn’t primarily sell products, Adobe primarily rents its products to consumers. Adobe is a literal actual real world example of a rent seeking company.
Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by sushibowl on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @02:49AM (#40714774)
Simply renting out products is not necessarily the same as rent-seeking. Rent-seeking is the extraction of uncompensated value from others without increasing productivity. The classic example is putting up a chain across a river and charging passing boats a toll to lift the chain.

Ostensibly Adobe's customers are paying for continual improvement and support of its product and maintenance costs associated with whatever cloud features they offer. That's not rent-seeking.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by fauigerzigerk on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @03:23AM (#40714991)
True. The distinction is just not always as obvious, because rent seekers often don't start out as rent seekers.

They usually gain market share based on merit. Over time, structural factors such as network effects allow them to grow the rent-seeking part of their income while the merit based part declines.

Rent-seeking is a very entrenched idea though. Even the tiniest bit of merit in the distant past is enough to justify renting out inherited land for instance.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by concordDance on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @03:43AM (#40715100)
"Rent seeking" is an economic term where you sell access to something with a fixed supply. Classically land. The landlord does not need to do anything to gain money and it isn't possible to make any more land.

It doesn't really apply to any SaaS.

Re:FTC sues Adobe for hiding fees and inhibiting cancellations by damsalor on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @03:13AM (#40725682)
The landlord has to defend his claim and undermine competition