Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds
by whodidntante on Monday June 17, 2024 @07:28PM
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Dogs can hear far better than people. They can see far better. They not only smell better, but they smell differently - two independent nostrils, with the ability to hold a smell across breaths - they smell in stereo and can sense past movements of animals by smell differential. They can also sense emotions, infer intent, and are very aware of, respond to, and participate in social interactions and hierarchies across species.
Their sensory world is richer, deeper, and more complex than ours, and their ability to interact within that environment is, in many ways, quicker and more efficient than we are able to do in our environment.
We obviously have far greater intellectual capability. And have created an environment where these capabilities are needed/required, one where dogs rely on us to survive.
So, I would say that we are more conscious in some ways, dogs are more conscious in other ways.
Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds
by sethammons on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @09:33AM
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Consciousness is your mental model of your environment. Dogs have theirs and we have ours. That does leave the question on the scope of consciousness. More processing power equals more, expanded consciousness it would stand to reason.
Re:Are animals conscious? How new research is changing minds
by taneq on Monday June 17, 2024 @07:24PM
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Because that’s not what consciousness means! Because it never means anything, because it’s never defined in any useful way.
‘What is it like to be like a HN thread?’ This is just pushing the missing definition into ‘to be’ .
(Metzinger’s transparent self-model description is the closest I’ve read to something actually useful.)
Why not?
> Consciousness is the individual experience of the "interiority" of a world model constructed in the brain.
The more complex and detailed the model, the more conscious. Why not?