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Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by dartos on Sunday June 16, 2024 @10:15AM (#40697244)
If that has to be punishable, then job listings with false or misleading information should be too.

Also, offer letters must be legally binding at the time of being offered.

Also, saying you’re hiring when you’re actually not.

Lying on the resume is literally all the leverage most people have in the job hunt.

Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by jpambrun on Sunday June 16, 2024 @10:20AM (#40697276)
Everything you mentioned is immoral. Two wrong doesn't make it right.

If you cheat, to compete you your lies I now have to lie. And it completely breaks the system.

Also, you don't deserve more leverage over other prospective candidate. This is cheating and fraud. It requires punishment.

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Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by jpambrun on Sunday June 16, 2024 @10:53AM (#40697533)
I am not in the US, so this is a bit moot, but I don't want liers as coworkers or on my team. To me this is unprofessional and absolutely disqualifying. I wouldn't care for the law. I would die on that hill.
Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by dartos on Sunday June 16, 2024 @12:24PM (#40698201)
Then you best be sure your hiring process can catch liars
Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Tuesday June 18, 2024 @04:03AM (#40715229)
Dying on the hill of... breaking labor law.

"Are we the baddies?"

Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by dartos on Sunday June 16, 2024 @12:19PM (#40698143)
Everything I mentioned is immoral. If anything I or OP mentioned is punishable, then it all should.

> and it completely breaks the system

The system of hiring is set up in such a way that employers and employees are encouraged to act immorally to get the best result. It’s not any individual’s fault that the system is broken, it just grew that way.

And everyone has the same ability to lie on resumes. When job hunting you should use every advantage you can get.

That being said, making outright lies may get you the first screening, most interviewers can smell too much bullshit.

Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by zug_zug on Sunday June 16, 2024 @10:24AM (#40697303)
> If that has to be punishable, then job listings with false or misleading information should be too.

Currently, it's symmetrical. If either side lies, the other side can exit the contract with no notice, and may tell others their story.

> Also, saying you’re hiring when you’re actually not.

This would be nice and very actionable. Perhaps requiring a company to say how many resumes they've received, candidates they've talked to, and how long its been open on job listings could save everyone's time.

Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by bbarn on Sunday June 16, 2024 @10:53AM (#40697529)
In some countries, that or nearly that is the case already.
Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by dartos on Sunday June 16, 2024 @12:20PM (#40698170)
Right, neither side should be able to lie is the whole point.

Currently lying on resumes is the only power would-be employees have, since employers can say or do _almost_ whatever they want during the hiring process

Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by throw10920 on Sunday June 16, 2024 @11:51AM (#40697923)
Yes! All of the things! Honesty should be required from all parties.
Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by dartos on Sunday June 16, 2024 @12:21PM (#40698175)
Exactly
Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by nohuck13 on Sunday June 16, 2024 @10:21AM (#40697280)
You're saying that if you as an employer find out that someone you hired lied to induce you to hire them, you should be legally required to continue employing them, as some kind of karmic balancing thing?
Re:NLRB judge declares non-compete clause is an unfair labor... by dartos on Sunday June 16, 2024 @12:23PM (#40698186)
That’s not even a little bit what I said.

I assume you’re referring to the offer letter? Companies extend offer letters only to retract them before the agreed starting date. (Maybe since the offer they found a better candidate)

That should be punishable.

Hiring someone who lied on their resume and is unable to perform their work duties should be fired.