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Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by yawpitch on Saturday June 15, 2024 @04:13AM (#40688276)
I will bet you literally all the money ever printed that we don’t.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by Sharlin on Saturday June 15, 2024 @04:33AM (#40688348)
That’s not how betting works. How much would you really bet, your own real money? For example, I’m totally ready to take the bet at merely 1:1000 odds. In 30 years, let’s say, I’d owe you a $100 if a probe hasn’t broken V1’s distance record, and you’d owe me a hundred grand if we have. In today’s dollars. Should be a no-brainer if you really think it’s impossible.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by rightbyte on Saturday June 15, 2024 @05:48AM (#40688642)
It does't work to get fair odds (estimated value 1) when the gains are a nice dinner downtown and a loss might be financial servitude.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by Sharlin on Saturday June 15, 2024 @07:40AM (#40689132)
I could take the bet at 1:100 odds too.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by noduerme on Saturday June 15, 2024 @06:30AM (#40688813)
One thing's for sure, $100,000 in today's dollars won't buy you dinner by the time the bet's resolved.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by playingalong on Saturday June 15, 2024 @06:47AM (#40688886)
Doesn't the phrase "today's dollars" imply the practical value will stay the same?
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by netsharc on Saturday June 15, 2024 @08:31AM (#40689375)
If we're going to worry about inflation, we might as well worry about the climate burning up our planet.

Maybe I'm being overly pessimistic, but the next ~100 years we'll be bothered trying to have enough food and water and killing ~80% (or more) of humans of the planet who want our food, water, and shelter from the extreme weather that we won't be sending anything to chase the Voyagers...

Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by elzbardico on Saturday June 15, 2024 @10:40AM (#40690097)
Nah. This is basically the worst of the worst IPCC scenarios, highly unlikely but for some reason the preferred ones by journalists and self-serving politicians as well as big green industry grifters.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by withinboredom on Saturday June 15, 2024 @11:09AM (#40690272)
Back of the napkin math shows it to be the most likely, especially with some of the more recent discoveries in regards to water evaporation and co2 emissions.

IPCC is sorely outdated by this point.

Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by netsharc on Saturday June 15, 2024 @03:37PM (#40692168)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S9sDyooxf4

TL;DW (poorly): Even IPCC scientists are sort of refusing to believe pessimistic data.

Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by elzbardico on Sunday June 16, 2024 @09:10AM (#40696795)
I hope we are getting to the point were rationality will prevail again. We need a balanced view of things, having only -1 on this comment of min here, on HN, which by nature is a climate doomer central fills me with hope.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by almost_usual on Saturday June 15, 2024 @01:33PM (#40691206)
The only solution is technological advancement.

If humanity doesn’t rise to the challenge (degrowth) this could happen.

Fortunately there are smart people all over the world solving problems everyday and that is likely to continue.

Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by netsharc on Saturday June 15, 2024 @03:38PM (#40692178)
As the ancient South Park meme says...

1. Technological advancement

2. ?

3. Climate change fixed

Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by almost_usual on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @08:08PM (#40733628)
As I said either advance or die. Reducing energy consumption isn’t an option, it will continue to grow unbound.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by yawpitch on Saturday June 15, 2024 @08:37AM (#40689413)
And that’s not how long term bookmaking works, as you’ve proposed a wager where I am guaranteed to lose at least the time value of my money on either outcome, and I’m extremely confident I’d lose exactly and only that. But I’ll happily put down $100 in today’s money if a win in 30 years returns a 10% profit over inflation, on the conditions that the probe must be launched from the Earth’s surface after the book is made, that it must overtake Voyager 1’s then distance inside 30 years, and that it must be actively transmitting at least one piece of meaningful local-condition scientific data back under its own power (for validation of ranging purposes, at least) at that time.
Re:Voyager 1 is back online! NASA spacecraft returns data fr... by Etherlord87 on Saturday June 15, 2024 @07:09AM (#40688980)
I will bet you 10 times more to the contrary, literally, absolutely :D