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Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Thursday June 13, 2024 @09:58PM (#40676835)
I wrote a response but it is too long (11019 bytes is too long, apparently). (I have saved a copy on my computer, so that I may post it later (fully or partially).)

But, I have commented about most of the article, and about my own ideas of operating system design (which is capability-based); there are some similarities, but many things are done differently. However, some of the functionality they describe would be possible with how my ideas are doing, too.

Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by joshmarinacci on Thursday June 13, 2024 @10:12PM (#40676918)
I’d love to hear about it.
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Thursday June 13, 2024 @10:40PM (#40677062)
Most of my notes about operating system design are in paper, and in disorganized files in computer (some of which have not been updated from my changed ideas),

I have written some on Hacker News as well, such as: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40651272 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40676995

(I had also written some on Usenet, and also on IRC.)

Perhaps I could set up a NNTP for discussion, that work can be made to write the specifications (which can be changed as the actual implementation is made, in case that reveals problems with the specifications), and to discuss implementations.

Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by Aerbil313 on Thursday June 13, 2024 @10:45PM (#40677087)
Is it possible you send me an email?
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Thursday June 13, 2024 @10:52PM (#40677118)
I could, but I would prefer not to. Public communication would be preferable, such as by using NNTP. (I may set up a NNTP for this; I have a NNTP server set up already and can easily add a newsgroup.)
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Friday June 14, 2024 @02:57PM (#40683808)
Now I have set up a NNTP: nntp://zzo38computer.org/un2.org.zzo38computer.osdesign (at the time of this writing, there are no messages there; I may add one later, but anyone else also may do so)
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by lproven on Saturday June 15, 2024 @04:46AM (#40688416)
Thunderbird chokes on this.
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Saturday June 15, 2024 @07:29PM (#40693466)
It works with Lynx. I don't know what is the problem with Thunderbird, but I added an article in case it doesn't work for newsgroups that do not already have an article. If you are getting a specific error message, what it is?
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by lproven on Wednesday June 19, 2024 @10:51AM (#40728875)
Since when does Lynx include a Usenet client?
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Saturday June 22, 2024 @10:50PM (#40764351)
I don't know when that feature was added, but I know it is able to load the URL starting by "nntp:"; I tried it and it works OK.
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by lproven on Friday June 21, 2024 @04:55AM (#40747564)
Nearly a week and no reply.

I do not understand your motivations here: inventing new Internet protocols, apparently intentionally misusing terminology, etc.

("I set up a NNTP" makes no more sense than "here, try to connect over brown": NNTP is a protocol and the normal usage is to set up a news server over which one communicates via a news client over NNTP.)

Maybe this is meant to be funny, or sarcastic/ironic, or performance art, or something else; I can't tell. What it is not is helpful, informative, or clear.

Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Saturday June 22, 2024 @10:55PM (#40764385)
> Nearly a week and no reply.

I do not know what reply was expected.

> Maybe this is meant to be funny, or sarcastic/ironic, or performance art, or something else; I can't tell. What it is not is helpful, informative, or clear.

It is meant to be helpful, informative, and clear. Unfortunately, that is not always the case.

Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by lproven on Sunday June 23, 2024 @08:02AM (#40766793)
> It is meant to be helpful, informative, and clear.

It is none of these. Please try harder.

I was interested in following these links and reading about this, but your strange attitude, opaque and incomprehensibly cryptic responses, and general lack of cooperation mean that I have now lost interest.

If you want to play silly games, invent your own protocols and your own unique way of misusing existing language, post "links" that only work using your own client software, and other strange lateral responses, that is of course up to you. Perhaps it is some sort of act.

But do not expect everyone to like it or to be amused. I am not. I am just annoyed. I suspect most people won't even give it that much attention.

Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by WinnieRallycar on Friday June 14, 2024 @04:18AM (#40678765)
Sounds like you should make a blog post!
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Friday June 14, 2024 @05:13PM (#40685207)
Actually I had done: scorpion://zzo38computer.org/blog/c_OPERATING_SYSTEM_DESIGN.scorp (I may write more later, too)
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by lproven on Saturday June 15, 2024 @04:38AM (#40688373)
What format and URL scheme is that? I've never seen this before in 39 years on the Internet.
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Saturday June 15, 2024 @07:32PM (#40693481)
It is a more recent one (made up from criticism of Gemini protocol/file-format, as well as criticism of WWW).

(Simple explanation: Use port 1517. Send R and then a space and then the full URL and then carriage return and line feed.)

The file format is a binary format, although there is also a plain text file describing the protocol and file format at: scorpion://zzo38computer.org/specification.txt

Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by lproven on Friday June 21, 2024 @04:56AM (#40747571)
This is the opposite of helpful.

What can connect to it? How do I use it? If I need to implement my own protocol, then the answer is "no" followed by "what are you on?"

Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by zzo38computer on Saturday June 22, 2024 @11:07PM (#40764436)
I wrote a "astroget" program which can download the file (and supports several protocols, including Gemini, Gopher, Spartan, HTTP, etc). It is also possible to use netcat. The program to display the file is not yet written, as far as I know. However, the specification file is plain text file, in order to ensure that you can read it without needing to implement it at first.
Re:Ideal OS: Rebooting the Desktop Operating System (2017) by lproven on Sunday June 23, 2024 @08:02AM (#40766797)
Hint: don't pull foolish stunts like this, unless you are trying to annoy people.