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Re:Indian Startup 3D Prints Rocket Engine in Just 72 Hours by gridspy on Thursday June 13, 2024 @04:21PM (#40674249)
One is a failure to act as an agent - to control the car and make decisions. Another is a failure to even be a reliable tool - to do what the operator commands. Very different.

Creating Agents is a lot harder.

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Re:Indian Startup 3D Prints Rocket Engine in Just 72 Hours by abduhl on Thursday June 13, 2024 @07:04PM (#40675867)
Coming up with new words and terms in order to escape the comparison smacks of This Time It’s Different. Therac-25 was an Agent for performing radiation therapy - it controlled the radiation machine and made decisions. Autopilot/FSD is supposed to be a tool for the driver and it fails to be a reliable tool by driving into things.

This Time It’s Not Different At All

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Re:Indian Startup 3D Prints Rocket Engine in Just 72 Hours by ETH_start on Friday June 14, 2024 @04:34AM (#40678851)
Autopilot is NOT advertised as being able to drive perfectly on its own, and your disingenuous analogies won't change that.
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Re:Indian Startup 3D Prints Rocket Engine in Just 72 Hours by gridspy on Saturday June 15, 2024 @06:01PM (#40693022)
Agent - Something that makes decisions and actions that are not pre-programmed or predictable. Humans are definitely agents. LLM (eg Chat-GPT) are not quite there yet (they don't take action on their own).

Tool - Pretty much everything humanity has made to date. It does a preprogrammed thing or provides mechanical advantage. But it does not act on novel decisions it is making.

The terms come from an AI safety expert that Lex Friedman interviewed recently. [1]

Tesla FSD is almost an agent, though it asks a human to be ready to take over at any time.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNr6gPelJ3E

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