Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by icedchai on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @12:50PM
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Yeah, then the investors call a board meeting and bring in a new CEO to provide adult supervision after a 2/3rds vote. The give that guy more equity than you to keep the ship afloat. "It's not your company anymore."
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Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by Finbarr on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @12:59PM
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Your daily reminder of the importance of maintaining board control.
Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by flyinglizard on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @02:15PM
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Not realistic to maintain control past A unless you built a real rocketship. The board doesn’t usually want to run your company - they have enough other companies, some evidently better than yours as they don’t require this intervention.
Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by Finbarr on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @02:47PM
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> some evidently better than yours as they don’t require this intervention.
I’m not sure where that’s coming from.
Also plenty of companies out there have control past the A.
Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by FreakLegion on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @05:01PM
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Most have voting control, subject to certain investor veto powers, after the A. Very few have it after the B.
Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by reducesuffering on Thursday June 13, 2024 @05:38AM
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Isn’t each round 10-20% to investors? Even in the worst case of Seed, A, and B at 20% each, founders still have 80% -> 64% -> 51% ?
And in the best case it’s just one series A taking ~15%, thus founders still have 85%
Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by icedchai on Thursday June 13, 2024 @06:35AM
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It can get much worse. Companies can have multiple “seed” rounds. It may not be doing well enough for a real “A” round. The naming of the rounds doesn’t matter. Valuation at each round does. If your valuation goes lower from one round to the next (“down round”) you’ll give up more equity, diluting everyone else faster.
Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by FreakLegion on Thursday June 13, 2024 @03:45PM
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Each round carves out 10+% for employee options, on top of 10-30+% to investors (Seed can be anywhere from 10-30%, Series A is typically 20% to just the lead, Series B 10%+).
Equity ownership and voting control are also different things. After the B you commonly have 2 investors and an independent director on the board, alongside 1-2 founders.
Re:Silicon Valley's best kept secret: Founder liquidity
by ishan0304__ on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @05:40PM
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Can never happen, the guy who says that this ain't ur money no more has made sure that investors know their place on board, they r afterall just passive investors who r spreading risks around, even wework a company that has fucked up financials had to give their founder close to a billion dollars just for stepping down, as long as the founder is a majority stakeholder, he will always remain in control