Re:Fifth helium leak detected on Starliner
by glimshe on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @07:01AM
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Thank you - amazing information.
These System/360 descendants were programmed in languages I've never heard of, such as JOVIAL and HAL/S. It feels that people were having all the CS fun in the 70s and didn't have to deal with the garbage pile of Javascript, "Modern" C++, flaky frameworks etc. Am I romanticizing?
Re:Fifth helium leak detected on Starliner
by ericcumbee on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @01:43PM
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Starship and Starliner aren't really in competition though. the SpaceX Analog is the Falcon 9 and Dragon. which at its fundamental level is a pretty simple spacecraft. The Merlin engines in the Falcon 9 are Kerosene Liquid Oxygen Gas generator engines. which is one of the more simple basic designs you can choose for a rocket engine. The thrusters are pretty standard Hypergolic thrusters.
Re:Fifth helium leak detected on Starliner
by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @03:40PM
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> Merlin engines in the Falcon 9 are Kerosene Liquid Oxygen Gas generator engines
Still far more complicated than a pressure-fed engine.
The point of the comparison is in the benefits of SpaceX’s economies of scale. They’re building Raptor engines that are failing at a lower frequency than Boeing’s pressure-fed hyperbolic RCS.
Pressure-fed engines are the simplest liquid-fuel engine design [1]. SpaceX's Raptors' full-flow staged-combustion cycles are massively more complicated. Yes, keeping your helium from boiling off is...a job. But taken as a system, the Raptor is more complicated.
> methane may be technically less capable, but much easier to work with
Also less precedented. Hydrazine/helium thrusters are amply studied. On technological risk, methane is untested.
> Steel is worse than aluminium in many ways, but it's also strong and easy to manufacture
It's also heavier and corrodes.
In summary, SpaceX chose a more-complicated engine design, a novel fuel and an unprecedented structural material and beat Boeing to the punch. In part because Boeing sucks. In part because Starliner has been obvious fuckwit fodder for at least half a decade, and that leaves you with a special sort of person who is willing to work on it.
> where the shuttle was famous for having a complex (but well engineered) sophisticated avionics system, SpaceX use "commodity" computers running Linux
The Space Shuttle's main computer was a System/360 descendant [2]. Its design philosophy implies that they would have used Linux were it an option.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure-fed_engine
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/4_Pi