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Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by allanrbo on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @11:48PM (#40654269)
If a human eye works at say 10 fps, then 8 minutes with a cat is about 10k images :-D
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by captaincaveman on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @05:44AM (#40656288)
I'd say that was more like a single instance, one interaction with a thing.
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by lxgr on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @11:34AM (#40659258)
But in that single interaction, you might have seen the cat from all kinds of different angles, in various poses, doing various things, some of which are particularly not-dog-like.

I vaguely remember hearing that there's even ways to expand training data like that for neural networks, i.e. by presenting the same source image slightly rotated, partially obscured etc.

Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by naasking on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @05:31PM (#40663354)
One interaction that captures a multidimensional, multisensory set of perceptions. In an ML training set, say for visual recognition, this would consist at least of hundreds of images from many angles, in different poses and varied lighting.
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by captaincaveman on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @07:51PM (#40664432)
I don't think its analogous, I don't think we see a cat and our brain have it frame by frame adjust our synaptic weights (or whatever brains do). The whole premise of natural brains being able to learn by static images or disjointed modalities is a very clunky reductionist engineered approach we have taken.
Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by naasking on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @09:52PM (#40665150)
> I don't think we see a cat and our brain have it frame by frame adjust our synaptic weights (or whatever brains do)

I think that "whatever we do" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Some of those "whatevers" will be isomorphic to a frame-level analysis that pulls out structural commonalities, or close enough that it's not a clunky reductionist analogy.

Re:Show HN: ARC Prize – a $1M+ competition towards open AGI ... by captaincaveman on Thursday June 13, 2024 @06:16AM (#40667844)
When we see what we think is a cat, what we have categorised as a cat, I don't think we are looking at it from each angle and going, cat, cat, cat. I think there is an aspect of something like the 'free-energy principle' that is required to trigger off a re-assessment. So while visually we may receive 20fps of cat images, it's mostly discarded unless there is some novelty that challenges expectation.