A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-generated material

Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by tananaev on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @10:26AM (#40646546)

That's a result of natural selection forced by search engines. I think that's why I like ChatGPT so much. You can ask it very specific things and it will tell you exactly what you need. It does also output verbose answers by default, but you can control it by promoting for a short answer.

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by AlexandrB on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @10:47AM (#40646791)

Enjoy it while you can. Once the marketing guys and monetization engineers get to it I suspect things will get a lot more annoying.

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:33PM (#40648309)

This. Marketing is a cancer on modern society, and it's metastasizing to new communication media increasingly quickly.

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by datavirtue on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:41PM (#40648429)

Marketing is literally customer/product (market) identification and all the activity required to produce and deliver the product to customers. Business. Did you mean advertising?

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by orge on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:58PM (#40648704)

Are engineering, design, and logistics just sub fields of marketing? Is this really how people use the word marketing?

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:46PM (#40648502)

Motte and bailey. Marketing is what you say on paper, but nothing like it in practice.

(And people have been giving me identical response with "advertising" in place of "marketing" for years now, so I'll say yes to both; the terms are effectively interchangeable in both motte and bailey cases.)

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by datavirtue on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:39PM (#40648401)

Not if my company is paying for it. Which they will, because they have to. The price will be kept in check becauae it is a commodity. Anyone wanting enterprise business will have to include it (Microsoft 365).

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by tavavex on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @01:57PM (#40649397)

Luckily, unlike search engines and similar, LLMs can be run completely locally. As long as there are corporate interests trying to squeeze new tech for every cent with no regard to anything else, there will be hobbyists making what's actually useful for them.

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by duxup on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @10:28AM (#40646569)

Good point.

I do find myself sometimes even prompting for a shorter answer after it hits me with a blob of text ;)

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by moi2388 on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @11:01AM (#40646982)

I do so as well, but usually the response is the chatbot first generating a paragraph about how it’ll comply with the request, making the prompt moot

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by wafflemaker on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @11:51AM (#40647765)

It is probably an internalized "prompt engineering" trick from gpt3.5 times, where you could achieve near gpt-4 performance using stuff like that. Rephrase the question and plan your answer was on top of the list.

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Re:A new term, ‘slop’, has emerged to describe dubious A.I.-... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:30PM (#40648274)

Keep in mind that tokens are LLM units of thought; the only moment the model does any computation is when generating tokens. Therefore, asking it to be succinct means effectively dumbing it down.

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