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Re:Apple's AI Strategy in a Nutshell by red2awn on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @08:32AM (#40645460)
The article seems to be based on misinterpreted information:

> Apple’s model has extremely low latency (0.6 milliseconds to first token), outperforms similar sized Phi and Gemini models from Microsoft and Google.

From [1] it is 0.6 millisecond per prompt token so unless the prompt is one token the latency would be higher.

> Apple’s server-side models running in the Private Cloud Compute are apparently quite near the GPT-4o in terms of quality

The benchmarks from [1] never mentioned GPT-4o, the best model they compared to for the server model is GPT-4-0125. If their model almost matches GPT-4o they wouldn't need to integrate with ChatGPT.

[1]: https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/introducing-apple...

Re:Apple's AI Strategy in a Nutshell by elicksaur on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @09:02AM (#40645741)
If you stream the answer, the first token time is roughly the per token time.
Re:Apple's AI Strategy in a Nutshell by lostmsu on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @07:32PM (#40652882)
No, you have to feed the entire prompt token-by-token before getting response.
Re:Apple's AI Strategy in a Nutshell by elicksaur on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @12:04AM (#40654381)
Oh, I see, I misread. Thought it meant 0.6ms per output token. Now I get that it’s saying “prompt token”, so if your prompt is 100 tokens, that’s 60ms.

That seems pretty fast. 1.6k tokens for a 1s time. Do other models compare to that? I’m not sure what the current top ranking for this metric looks like.

Re:Apple's AI Strategy in a Nutshell by lostmsu on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @12:15AM (#40654438)
Latency here is weird. You are using the number as bandwidth in this calculation. Perhaps reporter doesn't really know what he's talking about.