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Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by ENGNR on Monday June 10, 2024 @06:22PM (#40639890)
Open code, inspected and used by a large number of users, hosted on hardware you physically control
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by threeseed on Monday June 10, 2024 @07:06PM (#40640315)
Most open source code isn't inspected though.

There have been many cases recently of compromised code being in the wild for quite some time and then only known about by accident.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by spywaregorilla on Monday June 10, 2024 @07:32PM (#40640549)
100% of closed code is not inspected
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by sodality2 on Monday June 10, 2024 @08:13PM (#40640825)
By you. Three comments above references "independent audits". Meaning professional cybersecurity firms
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by jeroenhd on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @02:22AM (#40643117)
From. what I can tell, Apple doesn't actually provide the source code itself, or provides the (cryptographically verified) binaries and VMs to run it. Reverse engineering will still need to take place, it seems.
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by theshrike79 on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @12:25AM (#40642319)
I have been involved in security audits for 110% closed code, code that's secret even within the company.

Auditing helps the company writing it, the auditors are usually experts in breaking stuff in fun ways, and it's good for business - we could slap "code security audited by XXX" on the sales pitch.

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by spywaregorilla on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @10:37AM (#40646668)
> and it's good for business - we could slap "code security audited by XXX" on the sales pitch.

You're on the precipice of discovering the problem of incentives when it comes to audits.

Audits are good, but they're inferior to source available

Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by ryr11 on Monday June 10, 2024 @06:40PM (#40640078)
I think that's fair, but impractical for most users. I have a number of Home Assistant integrations with locally hosted AI models for smart home features, but I wouldn't expect my grandma to set up a server and a few VMs when she could just give her HomePod a prompt that works with AI and have no worries about the implementation. Do you feel like Apple's "independent" auditing is insufficient?
Re:Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac by ENGNR on Monday June 10, 2024 @06:44PM (#40640118)
> Do you feel like Apple's "independent" auditing is insufficient?

Yeah, pretty much

Also, your grandma might not setup a VM, but it sounds like the off-device processing is essentially stateless, or at most might have a very lightweight session. It seems like the kind of thing one person could setup for their family (with the same tamper-proof signatures, plus physical security), or provide a privacy focused appliance for anyone to just plug into a wall, if they wanted to.