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Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by minimaxir on Sunday June 09, 2024 @02:59PM (#40626647)
The issue with the ScarJo case, irrespective of the facts behind the development of OpenAI's voices, is that a) ScarJo's team indicated an intent to sue and b) legal precedent exists that can give the performer ownership if it's uncannily similar.

It's not as clear cut as non-lawyer tech people say it is even if it will be an uphill battle for ScarJo, which is what makes it more interesting. She did fight Disney and won, after all.

Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by tptacek on Sunday June 09, 2024 @03:37PM (#40626925)
As far as I can tell, all of that precedent involves the "copier" of the voice giving specific instruction to the "mimic", which didn't happen here.
Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by bdcrazy on Sunday June 09, 2024 @03:47PM (#40627015)
If the series of events was: They wanted Scar Jo, she said no. They found someone similar. That would be the end of the story. The question then was, why did they reach out to her again immediately before putting it out there? That seems pretty strange to me.
Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by pseudalopex on Sunday June 09, 2024 @04:12PM (#40627213)
They made a voice model from Scarlett Johansson recordings and hoped she would change her mind maybe.
Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by tptacek on Sunday June 09, 2024 @07:31PM (#40628488)
They did no such thing. The Washington Post found the voice actor they used, it's her natural speaking voice, she was not asked to perform ScarJo, and the movie "Her" wasn't mentioned.
Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by pseudalopex on Tuesday June 11, 2024 @02:17PM (#40649629)
Sky was 1 voice model. OpenAI made and released 4 others. It is plausible they made and did not release at least 1.

> The Washington Post found the voice actor they used

They found the voice actor? Or OpenAI produced the actor's agent?

Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by tptacek on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @10:24PM (#40665330)
Is there reporting about this happening, or is this simply something you think could have happened? Because a lot of things could have happened.
Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by pseudalopex on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @08:23PM (#40806061)
What does maybe mean?

They said it seemed strange OpenAI contacted Johansson when they did. I countered this assumption.

I believe an unreleased Scarlett Johansson voice model would not infringe her publicity rights. Do you disagree?

Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by jgalt212 on Wednesday June 12, 2024 @01:58PM (#40660989)
parallel construction?
Re:It's all unraveling at OpenAI (again) by tptacek on Sunday June 09, 2024 @04:04PM (#40627153)
I don't have more to say here other that I'm aware of the legal precedent being discussed here, read 2 cases, and in both the fact pattern cited in the decision involved specific instruction for the performer to mimic someone else's performance. That's all.