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Re:Bootstrapping my new company by tptacek on Sunday December 21, 2008 @11:41PM (#406083)
It's one thing for you to say you've never had to appease investors "once". It's another for you to imply that this is an irrelevant concern. I have several counter-anecdotes. I imagine I won't need them, though, and that you'll just concede that you have good investors --- for the time being --- and that bumbling or mendacious board members are indeed a real concern.
Re:Bootstrapping my new company by dcheong on Monday December 22, 2008 @12:02AM (#406102)
Hi tptacek - thanks for this comment.

I'm in 100% agreement with you. Also, there's something to be said for a company that is totally autonomous and free from the pressures of an investor.

Though not a hard/fast rule and clearly a generalisation - Building a company with investors shifts the focus to helping maximise shareholder value. Building a company free from investors encourage the founders to think about the customers.

I've always believed if you focus on the customers and build solid products that add real value, the money bit will come naturally.

While I don't deny the benefits and advantages of having investors (money, networking, advice etc), there are many ways to "skin the cat" and build a business.

Re:Bootstrapping my new company by webwright on Monday December 22, 2008 @12:21PM (#406574)
I'm not implying that (or at least, not on purpose). I'm railing against the implication that funded entrepreneurs are constantly appeasing (presumably moronic) investors.

Listen, the money isn't free. It comes with a few protections (for them) and obligations (to them). If you've got good leverage when you set up your terms and go with a good investor, I don't think it has to be that bad. I know plenty of people who like their investors. Many people who take money seek investment for their second effort (even if they're rich and don't need it).

Bumbling board members are a risk in the same way that (as the OP points out) a pile of money creates the danger that you'll hire too fast and build a meeting-heavy company. You need to be smart and disciplined. Desperate (or unlucky) entrepreneurs can end up with crappy investors and undisciplined entrepreneurs can end up with 12 VPs and day long meetings before they even have a product.

Clearly, anecdotes abound and there's no hard data... But I think the only one who was implying that there were any rules was the author.

Re:Bootstrapping my new company by dcheong on Monday December 22, 2008 @01:06PM (#406622)
Thanks for the follow up. I'll stress again, I'm not implying there are any hard/fast rules as you can see from the comments I've made here. If I have set the wrong impression, my apologies.

We all know here that being an entrepreneur is more like art than science. There is no one true way. Something which worked for someone in one instance may not work for you even if by rationale it makes sense and all the stars are aligned.

Re:Bootstrapping my new company by tptacek on Monday December 22, 2008 @01:48PM (#406685)
It's also the case that not wanting to kowtow to investors is a valid reason for bootstrapping. It's why we switched to bootstrapping a few weeks into talking to VC --- the VC pitches were fucking up our product plan.
Re:Bootstrapping my new company by aaronblohowiak on Sunday December 21, 2008 @11:52PM (#406097)
The parent's point cannot be overstated. The amount of waste that edicts from "on high" present is huge in many startups. That great network your VCs are part of, that they can use to pull favors and "make things happen" also means that your company sometimes has to pay its dues.