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Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by jandrese on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @04:31PM (#40590215)
Right now AI is in the part of the hype cycle where we are in the first knee of the S curve and people are drawing straight lines from that to predict the future. I've seen so much ridiculous hype about AI becoming godlike super-geniuses before the decade is out that I have to wonder if any of these people have tried using AI for real work and not just flashy demos.
Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by bloopernova on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @04:43PM (#40590365)
It's just like the hype about self driving vehicles. 5 years ago I had bought into the hype and thought that most long haul truck drivers would be out of work by now.
Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by gizajob on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @05:05PM (#40590611)
Funny that isn’t it. I wonder if Tesla throwing $4billion of Nvidia GPUs into a data centre will be enough to solve it “this time”.

Self-driving could easily become one of the pins that bursts Nvidias bubble if we don’t see spectacular improvements.

Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by jhallenworld on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @11:01PM (#40592983)
News today (from Nvidia!) was that Tesla isn't getting them, Elon redirected them to his new AI company.

The new AI has the same problem as AI for self driving- you can't trust it.

Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by gizajob on Thursday June 06, 2024 @03:59AM (#40594775)
It's strange alongside, that he's doing it as part of a new company. I realise it's due to his ongoing squabble with Tesla over this $50billion payout he still hasn't had... but can you even imagine the CEO of any other company doing that?

CEO: "Hey, so there's this thing about the product that I've been hyping as the killer widget it'll get, ohh for about ten years now. Well, we still didn't manage to solve the widget problem, so I'm going to start a new widget company that I own so I can sell us the widget."

Shareholders & Board: "You're doing what??!? That's the most illegal thing we've ever heard!"

Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by paulmd on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @07:51PM (#40591951)
> I've seen so much ridiculous hype about AI becoming godlike super-geniuses before the decade is out

I’ve actually seen literally none of that from proponents, like I’ve probably seen 100x as much strawmanning and uncharitable summary from opponents. Essentially nobody thinks we should hand the kingdom over to an unsupervised savior machine, like, can you show me a candidate from a major political party (doesn’t have to be US) who supports such a platform? Or a ceo who supports moving leadership decisions for his company over to an AI?

As far as I can tell, that whole thing is a strawman cut whole-cloth from the imaginations of detractors. I’d be delighted to hear counterexamples of the sort I discussed but I frankly don’t think they really exist outside some feverish imaginations.

Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by jandrese on Thursday June 06, 2024 @08:45AM (#40596743)
This chart has been making the rounds recently as an example:

https://x.com/tomhfh/status/1798467961151443382

Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by disgruntledphd2 on Thursday June 06, 2024 @10:32AM (#40597873)
That chart is insane. Assuming that scaling up compute is all that's needed seems wildly incorrect to me.

This whole buzz does have shades of self-driving cars back in 2016.

Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by jandrese on Thursday June 06, 2024 @10:55AM (#40598162)
> Assuming that scaling up compute is all that's needed seems wildly incorrect to me.

This is literally the strategy that people like Elon Musk are pursuing in their quest for AGI before the end of the decade. It is how he plans to have full self driving solved by August 8 so he can start selling Robotaxi accounts.

Re:Nvidia hits $3T market cap on back of AI boom by disgruntledphd2 on Friday June 07, 2024 @06:14AM (#40607115)
I mean, maybe? Certainly scaling up compute will make better text predictors, I am entirely unconvinced that that's all which is needed, but eventually I'll be wrong about the hype I guess.