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Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by rendall on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @07:47AM (#40583771)
Despite advancements, China still relies on key technologies from other countries, such as semiconductor manufacturing, where the U.S., Taiwan, and South Korea are leaders.

The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

While China has made significant progress, the U.S. (through NASA and private companies like SpaceX) has more extensive and diverse achievements in space, including reusable rockets and plans for Mars colonization.

Countries like Japan and Germany are leaders in robotics and automation technologies, with advanced systems and innovations that often surpass those of China.

China faces criticism for intellectual property theft and lack of respect for IP laws, which undermines perceptions of its technological advancements.

Although China produces a high volume of research, the quality and global impact of research from the U.S. and Europe are often considered higher.

Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by throw310822 on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @07:52AM (#40583802)
Don't the US and Europe also rely on key technologies from other countries?
Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by ossobuco on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @08:12AM (#40583921)
shhhhh! China bad, USA good
Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by rendall on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @03:30PM (#40589382)
Yes, but the claim is not "US and Europe is so much ahead of everyone else in tech, space and automation that it's not funny anymore" but that China is. So, while the answer to your question is "of course" it's not relevant to the claim.
Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by ossobuco on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @08:32AM (#40584076)
> Despite advancements, China still relies on key technologies from other countries, such as semiconductor manufacturing, where the U.S., Taiwan, and South Korea are leaders.

Doesn't the US (and most of the world) rely on Taiwan for semiconductors as well?

> The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

There's nothing like WeChat in the west yet. I'm not sure this strong lead is still there.

> Although China produces a high volume of research, the quality and global impact of research from the U.S. and Europe are often considered higher.

By whom?

It's important to consider that China and the US/Europe didn't start on equal footing.

Just 75 years ago China was ages behind the US. The speed at which they're progressing is mindblowing, especially considering their population.

Compare China with India, if your intent is to do a fairer comparison.

Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by mfwit on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @08:53AM (#40584221)
> There's nothing like WeChat in the west yet. I'm not sure this strong lead is still there.

China has a lot of really impressive technology and innovation happening. An app store inside a messaging app is not what I would point to as groundbreaking from a technology standpoint.

Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by ossobuco on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @09:00AM (#40584292)
It's not an app store inside a messaging app, it's a mega app. You can do literally everything with it, from home banking to payments to filing for divorce and booking a doctor.
Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by rendall on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @03:40PM (#40589542)
> China has a lot of really impressive technology and innovation happening.

Such as?

Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by idiocrat on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:18AM (#40585090)
On the other side the US Apollo rock samples from the moon are now lost somewhere in dusty warehouses, disinterested, neglected and unaccounted for.

There was an incident few years ago, where a couple had stolen some moon dust, spread it on their bed sheets and has sex on top.

Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by meindnoch on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @10:51AM (#40585537)
>The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

What are these groundbreaking technologies? Social apps? Marketing automation tools? Ride sharing apps?

Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by arnavpraneet on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @11:11AM (#40585847)
Is this a bot? Can't believe this is just bad faith unless this is sarcasm
Re:Chang'e-6: Moon dark side samples collected and launched ... by rendall on Wednesday June 05, 2024 @03:39PM (#40589528)
Please read the community guidelines, arnavpraneet. Specifically:

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