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Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by gjsman-1000 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @12:43PM (#40576431)
$40K, "affordable," shows what a bubble NYTimes is living in.

Let's remember that the median income in the US is $37,585. Half of people make less. Don't spend more than you make in a year on a new vehicle.

Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by bdcravens on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @02:28PM (#40577496)
The average new car in the US is $48k.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a43611570/average-new-car-...

You are correct that people shouldn't spend so much on new cars, but the status quo is that they are. Reporting on prices isn't a bubble as much as just a statement of what's going on.

Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by legitster on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @12:54PM (#40576580)
Median income is not an accurate measure of affordability. That includes every person who isn't working - stay at home moms, retirees, etc.

The federal reserve's calculation of household income is probably more useful at $74k: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N

And I have never paid more than $5k for a car personally, but the average new car in America is ~$47k so $40k is not actually out of alignment with what most people are buying.

Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by JohnFen on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @01:24PM (#40576902)
Most people don't buy new cars (in the US, anyway, twice as many used cars than new are sold.)
Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by maxsilver on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @02:29PM (#40577514)
> $40K, "affordable," shows what a bubble NYTimes is living in.

Did we read the same article? NYTimes is claiming that "$20k" (or rather, $20k after up to $7500 in federal rebates) is affordable.

Which, it kind of is? That's a brand new fully electric for like $400/month.

And we're seeing it in the used market as well. (2019/2020 Chevy Bolts are now going for like $15k or ~$350/month which puts them well into affordability for people around a $40k/yr income.

Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by Arnt on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @02:37PM (#40577586)
The average purchase price in the US in the recent years is >$40k, and you're saying that $40k is not affordable. Yours is not a majority opinion.
Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by hedora on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @03:16PM (#40577960)
From the article:

> Recently, Mr. Lawrence said, customers have been snapping up used Teslas for a little over $20,000, after applying a $4,000 federal tax credit.

...

> Carmakers including Tesla, Ford, General Motors and Stellantis, the owner of Jeep, have announced plans for electric vehicles that would sell new for as little as $25,000.

Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by tomcar288 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @02:56PM (#40577766)
absolutely. the standard of living is in decline: there are now fewer new cars sold per capita than decades past.
Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by zht on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @02:03PM (#40577247)
kind of goes against having Ford F-150 be the highest selling vehicle in the US
Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by timbo1642 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @02:05PM (#40577270)
No, its not even close. They claim the whole "F" group is the best selling, not the F150 alone.

With that said, the Tesla Y and 3 are the best selling cars in the US.

Please check your 5 year old info before posting.

Re:Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable by 83 on Tuesday June 04, 2024 @04:57PM (#40578862)
Fwiw I can't find any data to back up your claim. Looks like in 2023 numerous models outsold Tesla Y and 3 (CRV/Rav4/Ram/Silverado). While Ford doesn't seem to release individual F-150/250/350/450 data, given the huge lead I'd bet the F-150 would still beat model Y even if split out.