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Re:60 kHz (2022) by wglb on Friday May 31, 2024 @09:34PM (#40542112)
By "atomic" clocks (for example https://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-WT-3129B-Atomic-Ana...), and older brands of watches.

I think there are also older industrial applications using this technology to syncronize.

Re:60 kHz (2022) by metaphor on Friday May 31, 2024 @10:35PM (#40542424)
> ...and older brands of watches.

Modern watches too, e.g. Casio digital watches marketed as integrating their "Wave Ceptor"/"Multi-Band 6" feature[1].

I still use a 17-year-old (batch code[2] 202A327G) G-Shock GW-530A (predecessor of this active offering[3]) that syncs with WWVB every morning several hours before dawn.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_Wave_Ceptor

[2] https://shockbase.org/watches/batchcode.php

[3] https://www.casio.com/us/watches/gshock/product.GW-M530A-1/

Re:60 kHz (2022) by anaidioschrono on Friday May 31, 2024 @09:52PM (#40542220)
I love these clocks! I've had a few in every house I've lived in, from all along the West Coast and Midwest.
Re:60 kHz (2022) by lxgr on Friday May 31, 2024 @10:33PM (#40542408)
Since the equivalent European signal I'm familiar with only covers a single timezone, with unified DST rules, I'm curious:

Do these usually have an adjustment button for a time zone offset? And how do they handle DST – do they have an "I'm in Arizona (but not in the Navajo Nation), leave me on standard time" switch?

Re:60 kHz (2022) by V99 on Friday May 31, 2024 @10:47PM (#40542475)
They usually have an offset and a DST option. So in Arizona you'd choose -7/Off, and never touch it again. In Colorado you'll have to toggle DST twice a year manually, because it doesn't know the rules for when it starts/ends.
Re:60 kHz (2022) by lxgr on Friday May 31, 2024 @11:55PM (#40542747)
Oh, is there no “DST in effect” flag in the signal?

As I understand it, the US switches at the same day across the country (for the states that do have it), so that should theoretically be possible.

Re:60 kHz (2022) by quintushoratius on Saturday June 01, 2024 @06:39AM (#40544502)
Not every region of the continental US respects DST.
Re:60 kHz (2022) by lxgr on Saturday June 01, 2024 @08:37AM (#40545234)
I know, but if it does, it switches on the same day as all the others, which could be encoded in the signal, and it seems like it is [1].

So instead of a switch to “add an hour”, there could be one that says “add an hour if the signal says DST is currently in effect”.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWVB#Amplitude-modulated_time_...

Re:60 kHz (2022) by joezydeco on Saturday June 01, 2024 @01:38PM (#40547642)
The time code format does include a DST bit.

https://www.nist.gov/pml/time-and-frequency-division/time-di...

Re:60 kHz (2022) by o11c on Saturday June 01, 2024 @01:25AM (#40543124)
You shouldn't have to toggle DST manually; it's encoded at :57-58.

That said, my clock stopped syncing for some reason, so ...

Re:60 kHz (2022) by wglb on Saturday June 01, 2024 @05:05PM (#40549061)
The one remaining clock I have took a hard fall, and no longer syncs.
Re:60 kHz (2022) by esaym on Friday May 31, 2024 @11:25PM (#40542634)
Wow, added to wish list!