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Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by exe34 on Friday May 31, 2024 @03:25PM (#40539255)
did you have any problems specifically with X? It's worked flawlessly for my entire adult life, and a decade ago they made it so magical I didn't even have to write a config anymore. I think they will have to pry X from my cold dead silicon at this point.
Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by tombert on Friday May 31, 2024 @04:22PM (#40539791)
No, not really, I just wanted to play with the shiny new Wayland stuff. Also I like the Sway window manager, I think more than i3? Obviously they're both pretty comparable.
Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by Rinzler89 on Friday May 31, 2024 @06:29PM (#40540995)
>did you have any problems specifically with X?

Every recent time I would daily drive Linux (Ubuntu and Antix) I had screen tearing out of the box. Not really an acceptable feature.

Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by exe34 on Saturday June 01, 2024 @04:05AM (#40543799)
that's interesting, what graphics card were you using? was it some fancy monitor? I have always used pretty standard stuff and never had any problems.
Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by Rinzler89 on Saturday June 01, 2024 @05:10AM (#40544103)
>what graphics card were you using? was it some fancy monitor?

3 year old Lenovo laptop with Intel Integrated plus Nvidia dedicated on Ubuntu connected to external HDMI and Displayport standard 1080p monitors and built in laptop monitor, and an old PC with old dedicated Nvidia on AntiX(Debian) connected to old 17" VGA LCD monitor. Nothing fancy. Screen tearing on all of them.

Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by exe34 on Saturday June 01, 2024 @09:07AM (#40545424)
were you using the nvidia proprietary drivers?
Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by Rinzler89 on Saturday June 01, 2024 @09:38AM (#40545640)
I think Nuveau on both or whatever came out of the box during install. Tried to install the Nvidia propetary but couldn't due to some MoK signing issues.

Anyway, the out of the box experience is shit on this front. Screen tearing shouldn't be a thing anymore. It's not like those GPUs were some exotic prototype HW nobody else has to need hours of reding forums and tinkering with .conf files to get rid fo screen tearing.

Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by simoncion on Saturday June 01, 2024 @11:47AM (#40546699)
1) Nvidia's just bad on Linux because Nvidia doesn't give a shit about open source support, or about doing things the way the open source folks do. And while the Nouveau driver is an amazing technical feat, it's also amazing any time it actually works, given that it's totally reverse-engineered with effectively zero help from Nvidia.

2) If I were using a batteries-included distro,

  Section "Device"
    Identifier "AMD"
    Driver "amdgpu"
    Option "TearFree" "on"
    Option "VariableRefresh" "on"
  EndSection
would have been dumped into '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d' for me. But because I'm using Gentoo, I had to do it myself. Not a big burden.
Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by exe34 on Saturday June 01, 2024 @01:07PM (#40547393)
absolutely love the Linux culture of "don't screw it up: true":

> Option "TearFree" "on"

reminds me of a pdf viewer at some point had an option to "respect permission" or something, you could turn it off and ignore the limits on the pdf that the author set.

Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by simoncion on Monday June 03, 2024 @09:53PM (#40569928)
> reminds me of a pdf viewer at some point had an option to "respect permission" or something

Oh yeah, I always say "Don't respect" on PDF readers that have that setting. It's a very nice setting.

In regards to "TearFree" not being on by default, I expect that there's a good reason for it... maybe it adds some amount of latency (whether on hardware I don't have, or so little latency that I don't notice it), or maybe it just flat-out doesn't work right on some hardware that I happen to not have.

Regardless, deciding whether or not to set those settings is the job of one's distro.

Re:Debian KDE: Right Linux distribution for professional dig... by exe34 on Saturday June 01, 2024 @01:09PM (#40547407)
ah fair enough, I've never bothered with secure boot, my laptop is from 2012. nvidia is usually a pain, but I've never really had a problem once the proprietary driver was installed. I thought Ubuntu made that easier.