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Re:Legal models hallucinate in 1 out of 6 (or more) benchmar... by glorygut123 on Friday May 31, 2024 @01:47PM (#40538156)
How much of the time do humans hallucinate?
Re:Legal models hallucinate in 1 out of 6 (or more) benchmar... by staticman2 on Friday May 31, 2024 @02:19PM (#40538588)
The real question is whether typing "Humans also hallucinate" in every AI discussion on earth contributes something to an AI conversation.
Re:Legal models hallucinate in 1 out of 6 (or more) benchmar... by yoyohello13 on Friday May 31, 2024 @01:57PM (#40538314)
Who cares? Humans are accountable. This is about LLMs.
Re:Legal models hallucinate in 1 out of 6 (or more) benchmar... by neolefty on Friday May 31, 2024 @04:34PM (#40539943)
Well, we are always using our internal models for work like this. When our internal models and what we say don't match reality, we might call it "hallucination" or "getting it wrong" or even "lying".

When we get it right — our internal model matches reality, and we also say something that matches reality — we call it "truthfulness", and it's super valuable.

But I think there are two really different sources of hallucination / inaccuracy / lies. One is that the internal model is wrong — "Oops, I was wrong. The CVS isn't on Main St." The other is when we decide to deceive. "Haha, I sent you to Main St. CVS is really on Center Rd." Two very different internal processes with the same outcome.

Re:Legal models hallucinate in 1 out of 6 (or more) benchmar... by Gormo on Saturday June 01, 2024 @04:28PM (#40548818)
"All models are wrong, but some are useful".

If we were only engaging in model-based inference, then we, too, would always be hallucinating. But the very thing you're pointing out -- that we act differently when our internal model is wrong vs. when it is right -- is the crux of the difference. We use models, but then we have the ability to immediately test the output of those models for correctness, because we have semantic, not just syntactic, awareness of both the input and output data. We have criteria for determining the accuracy of what our model is producing.

LLMs don't, and are only capable of engaging in stochastic inference from the pre-defined model, which solely represents syntactic patterns, and have no ability to determine whether anything they output is semantically correct.

Re:Legal models hallucinate in 1 out of 6 (or more) benchmar... by raydev on Friday May 31, 2024 @08:24PM (#40541681)
If I’m paying them, not much, and I can hold them accountable if they’re too wrong.