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Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by Manuel_D on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @06:39PM (#40517928)
Can you elaborate on what you mean by, "their goal was to overthrow the democratically elected Government"? This could mean a whole lot of things, like voting out the incumbents in the next election - and sure I'll readily believe that the protestors were calling for that.

But "overthrow" reads to me like the protestors sought to forcefully remove and replace the existing government. In other words, a coup. That is a very different statement, and one I would really like you to substantiate with evidence if that's what you're trying to claim.

Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by richardlblair on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @06:57PM (#40518069)
The protesters held Ottawa captive while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election.

It was very similar to the first few days of the Easter Uprising in Ireland in 1916, except with trucks. A large group of people held key infrastructure hostage, with unreasonable demands that would not be met.

Those claiming otherwise need everyone to believe their side is the victim.

Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by naasking on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @09:28PM (#40519162)
> The protesters held Ottawa captive while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election.

I asked for a citation. If this is literally what the protest organizers did, then it should be easy to provide one. Their official Facebook page where they published their official position is still up.

Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by richardlblair on Friday May 31, 2024 @07:48AM (#40533871)
You know as much as I do that finding 2 yr old content is brutal. Especially given the volume of shitty media coverage the convoy received.

If you care enough about challenging your own beliefs, and if it's so easy, you'll do it yourself. I'm not going to waste my time and energy trying to convince random strangers on the internet. I know better.

Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by Manuel_D on Thursday May 30, 2024 @10:38AM (#40524302)
> while demanding the current democratically elected government be replaced by the government of their liking, without an election

Do you have any evidence for this beyond simply postulating it as fact? I'd be really interested in seeing who in the convoy, and what proportion of people, were making these demands.

And no, it was not like the Easter Uprising. The Easter Uprising saw armed insurrectionists kill over a hundred government personnel and hundreds of civilians. This kind of comparison does not give me confidence in your analysis of the protest.

Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by richardlblair on Thursday May 30, 2024 @01:25PM (#40526334)
If you read Agony at Easter by Thomas Coffee, which has a minute by minute account, you will see the importance of 'first few days'.

There are many many simularities.

Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by Manuel_D on Thursday May 30, 2024 @01:43PM (#40526518)
For the third time the central claim in your comments, that the Ottawa protestors sought to overthrow the government, remains completely unsubstantiated. Who said this, and on what basis is it a fair characterization of the >10,000 people who attended the protest?
Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by richardlblair on Thursday May 30, 2024 @03:31PM (#40527723)
The leaders stated on multiple occasions that their goal was for the conservatives to take power.

I'm not going to waste my time searching the internet for something you're fully capable of doing yourself.

You know damn well that was their goal.

Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by Manuel_D on Thursday May 30, 2024 @06:24PM (#40529421)
One can take power through elections, it's a massive leap to go from "take power" to "overthrow". There are legitimate means of taking power.

And again, this is the fourth time that you've just postulated this as fact rather than linking to the protest leaders' actual statements. I have searched the internet for any such statements calling for a forceful overthrow of the Canadian government, and I have not found any. No, I don't know that was their goal, and nothing in my searches indicate that it was. If you're serious about convincing people that the protestors posed a legitimate threat to democracy, you need to do a lot better than making claims with no evidence and telling people do their own research.

Re:Canada wants the power to create backdoors in telecom net... by richardlblair on Friday May 31, 2024 @07:41AM (#40533794)
I don't need to do anything. I remember it all vividly, and that's good enough for me. I know better than waste my time trying to change the minds of random strangers on the internet.