Re:Paris's Catacomb Mushrooms (2017)
by adammarples on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @10:25AM
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Yes, he clearly knows that, he gave multiple specific examples of local environment and local practices. I agree, terroir is not an elusive and untranslatable concept, it's a well understood and widely translated concept.
The concepts are not hard to understand and it is not uniquely French, far from it. That said, I cannot think of a single-word equivalent in English.
Re:Paris's Catacomb Mushrooms (2017)
by adammarples on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @05:40PM
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I can't think of a single-word translation for schadenfreude either, but that doesn't mean anything
TIL Epicaricacy, from ancient Greek ( it was unlikely that the Ancient Greeks didn't have a word for something such a human flaw.
Re:Paris's Catacomb Mushrooms (2017)
by selenography on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @08:10PM
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"epicaricacy" fails the simplest test for word-ness: it's never used without an explanation of its meaning. (Nor ever has been, according to Wiktionary.) It seems to have been one of the earliest Nihilartikels.
It could still be adopted as a learnèd (read: pretentious) borrowing from Greek, of course, but in that case it would be spelled epicharicacy.
Re:Paris's Catacomb Mushrooms (2017)
by mytailorisrich on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @11:03AM
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Except he provided an inaccurate translation so it seems to me that the concept is not so well understood...
IMHO it is indeed untranslatable in the sense that there is no single word in English with the same meaning so that a translation requires a description (illustrated by my quote from Wikipedia that spends a whole paragraph explaining what it means).
Re:Paris's Catacomb Mushrooms (2017)
by mytailorisrich on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @03:45PM
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As a French, and native French speaker, I would think that I should know... The reaction of the HN crowd is hilarious sometimes.
Wikipedia says:
Terroir is a French term used to describe the environmental factors that affect a crop's phenotype, including unique environment contexts, farming practices and a crop's specific growth habitat. Collectively, these contextual characteristics are said to have a character; terroir also refers to this character.