Instead of "auth", we should say "permissions" and "login"

Re:Instead of "auth", we should say "permissions" and "login" by swyx on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @11:23AM (#40501629)

> yet get interchangeably used as "authn".

maybe a nitpick but no, they're not. everyone I know distinguishes between "auth-N" and "auth-Z". i agree that they sound similar but actually its kinda nice that they all group into "auth" and then subdivide to authN and authZ. i guess this is me disagreeing with TFA.

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Re:Instead of "auth", we should say "permissions" and "login" by vekker on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @11:29AM (#40501696)

Colleagues & I have always distinguished them as authC and authZ ... less confusing than authN :)

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Re:Instead of "auth", we should say "permissions" and "login" by WorldMaker on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @05:29PM (#40505825)

I do the same in text sometimes, but there's more likelihood of confusion when used verbally unless your accent uses something like "Zed". In most American dialects "C" and "Z" are sometimes hard to distinguish verbally. You start into "C as in cow" and "Z as in zoo" games at which point it is easier to revert back to "authn" and "authz".

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Re:Instead of "auth", we should say "permissions" and "login" by vekker on Thursday May 30, 2024 @02:59AM (#40520944)

Never thought about abbreviating verbally and I never heard anyone doing so, but maybe that's because in Dutch (much like in German) we're used to longer words :D

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Re:Instead of "auth", we should say "permissions" and "login" by gofreddygo on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:46PM (#40503392)

You're right. i meant to say "auth" being used interchangeably for authn/z

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