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Re:Age and the entrepreneur, part 1: Some data by mynameishere on Wednesday August 08, 2007 @10:34AM (#40501)
I remember a Forbes article on a new small airplane business, featuring profiles of the 5 founders. The youngest, if I remember correctly, was in his 40s, and he was an accountant. The engineers were all old. There is very, very little innovation to be had in the airplane business (the US military is, remember, still flying planes designed in the 70s) and success is dependent upon age--which brings a tendency to 1) Not make fool mistakes 2) Understand horrendously complicated, but mature, technology, 3) Have critical contacts, 4) Have personal wealth to risk.

Something like...say...Twitter. What 50-year-old would even consider doing something like that? And if a kid does it, and botches it, no one gets hurt. Clearly the trade-offs between enthusiasm and experience are at work.

Dr. Simonton points out that the periods of Beethoven's career that had the most hits also had the most misses

I can't find that in the article. If by "hits" he means contemporary hits, perhaps. But Beethoven's late stage was both sparse, and choked with his greatest works. Compare that to rock music...the rolling stones' past 30 years can't compare with any 3 consecutive months in the 1960s.

Re:Age and the entrepreneur, part 1: Some data by dpapathanasiou on Wednesday August 08, 2007 @10:43AM (#40506)
There is very, very little innovation to be had in the airplane business

Have you heard about the Boeing 787 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6282820.stm)?

Re:Age and the entrepreneur, part 1: Some data by mynameishere on Wednesday August 08, 2007 @10:54AM (#40511)
For all intents and purposes, that's a 737 with an efficiency tweak. It's like going from merge sort to quick sort.

Have you heard about the concorde? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde (maiden flight: 1969, when the Rolling Stones were peaking.)

Re:Age and the entrepreneur, part 1: Some data by dpapathanasiou on Wednesday August 08, 2007 @11:00AM (#40515)
For all intents and purposes, that's a 737 with an efficiency tweak. It's like going from merge sort to quick sort.

Is it? It's an all-new design, using a new material for the first time, etc.

I didn't mean to be so blunt in my first reply, but there are tons of improvements that can be made in that industry, especially if you look at old problems with new eyes.

Re:Age and the entrepreneur, part 1: Some data by sanj on Wednesday August 08, 2007 @11:26AM (#40522)
Bizjets have been using those materials and avionics for years.

If you want to talk about all new designs and brilliance in aerospace, look at Burt Rutan.

Re:Age and the entrepreneur, part 1: Some data by dpapathanasiou on Wednesday August 08, 2007 @11:44AM (#40529)
You're right, there is innovation in that industry.

And the point is: if a generalization about an industry is incorrect, it's not a good idea to use that as a logical foundation for predicting the age of entrepreneurs in that industry.

Re:Age and the entrepreneur, part 1: Some data by run4yourlives on Wednesday August 08, 2007 @06:22PM (#40653)
There's a huge amount of innovation in the airplane business.

If it isn't the plane itself, it's the business model (westjet/southwest?). The problem with the industry - like others such as insurance, banking etc. - is the huge startup costs.

When you have larger start-up barriers, you get less incentive to innovate. If you're being bankrolled, you'll innovate, which is why the USAF had a new fighter every ten years when the cold war was on.