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Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by sumuyuda on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @07:13AM (#40499539)
There’s still no USB-A support, so the dongle book was never truly fixed.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by area51org on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @11:42AM (#40501868)
Given that the industry is trying to retire USB-A for good, this doesn't seem likely.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by bsder on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @07:15PM (#40506590)
USB-A is, in fact, the thing that drove me off of Apple for good.

There is a decent minority of people for whom USB-A eventually stops working and requires a reboot to restore.

The dongle doesn't matter. The dock doesn't matter. The device doesn't matter. Software updates do not fix it. The thread on it is 40+ pages when Apple closes it and then another 40+ page thread on it reappaears.

The problem is an OS problem. I can pinpoint precisely the OS update that caused it. Apple does not care and will not fix it.

Fine, I get it. So I left for Linux and never looked back.

Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by throwaway1105q on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:56PM (#40503505)
I haven't used USB-A single time since 2018... My USB-C display has it on its hub, but who cares...
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by vundercind on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @02:14PM (#40503731)
The vast majority of peripherals available at ordinary stores are still usb-a. If you just run into Target to grab [some peripheral] most or all options in that category will be usb-a.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by throwaway1105q on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @02:21PM (#40503796)
Yeah but does anybody buy it? In my store the peripherals are covered in dust... And it's some cheap Chinese knockoff, nothing like the old high quality ones.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by vundercind on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @02:59PM (#40504216)
Yes?

My company’s mostly Windows and the peripherals issued are all brand new and are all usb-a. We Mac weirdos have to dongle constantly or not use them. Even the non-Apple major brand Bluetooth wireless earbuds they issue have a usb-a plug on the end of the charging cable for the case.

Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by throwaway1105q on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @05:32PM (#40505849)
I was scared of getting a Mac for years because of the dongles. Then I got one from work (they even gave me the dongle and I made fun of it) and turns out I never use any of it. And then I realized the USB-A port on my desktop front panel has been broken probably for years and I didn't notice.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by dragcavecheater on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @03:13AM (#40509321)
Oh, so you just don't use peripherals at all. That is not a very common scenario.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by throwaway1105q on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @05:31AM (#40510095)
I do, but it's all wireless. My laptop and desktop both have Bluetooth.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by dragcavecheater on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @03:12AM (#40509312)
Not even just to plug in a joke gift? I got a gigantic Escape key once, which connected on a usb-A port. Most of that peripheral stuff still uses it.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by throwaway1105q on Wednesday May 29, 2024 @05:35AM (#40510115)
Hahaha, that's a cool one. But yeah I never got something like that.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by babypuncher on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @02:31PM (#40503915)
I blame perhipheral manufacturers for clinging to USB-A for no reason. It's been 8 years, please let this connector die already.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by luyu_wu on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @05:11PM (#40505655)
The chain of blame can be pushed further. Peripheral manufacturers laergely targrt desktop users, of which almost no motherboards support USB-C.
Re:I Miss BSD/Linux by babypuncher on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @07:04PM (#40506521)
It's a chicken and egg scenario. Motherboard manufacturers load up their I/O panels with USB A ports because people demand them. People demand them because all their perhipherals, like the dongle for their wireless mouse, are USB-A.

Logitech recently released an updated version of my mouse, the G Pro Superlight 2, and the damn thing still ships with a USB-A dongle.

With how many ports modern motherboards often ship with, I would think they could at least split the difference and give me 1/2 USB-C and 1/2 USB-A. but nope, my 2 year old motherboard only has 1 USB-C port on the back and a dozen USB-A. Then at least we would have a path forward.