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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by bongodongobob on Monday May 27, 2024 @06:58PM (#40495583)
My strategy is never buy new cars, period. Spending $50k+ on a car seems absolutely insane to me. In the past 26 years I've been driving, I've spent a total of $19k on cars, $11k of which is on my most recent as I got a great deal from a family member. So previous to last year, I was averaging a $26/mo "car payment". No major repairs outside of alternators, starters, batteries, and tires. I probably won't own an EV for another 20 years.
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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by Flameancer on Monday May 27, 2024 @07:08PM (#40495653)
Is t one of the main problems with used EVs the battery cap? Unless battery tech gets better can it be assumed that most EVs on the used market would also require a battery replacement so they have the original range?
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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by recursive on Monday May 27, 2024 @07:34PM (#40495831)
The battery replacement meme seems like mostly propaganda. Lots* of 10 year old EVs have 20% or less degradation. That's very usable.

Excluding cars without active thermal management, which mostly means the Nissan Leaf.

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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by nebula8804 on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @01:41PM (#40503323)
Yes sounds like propaganda but I worry about the long term repair costs of the rest of a car like Tesla. They weren't built well in the first place and age can only make that worse. This is where right to repair would have really helped Tesla but no they have to act like every other crap SV company.
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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by recursive on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @07:28PM (#40506682)
At this point, most car brands with dealerships also have a selection of EVs. You can get things like extended bumper-to-bumper warranties also.
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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by sokoloff on Monday May 27, 2024 @07:21PM (#40495730)
Liquid cooled batteries (so, not the LEAF) have pretty modest degradation. Yes, it would require a new battery if you needed 100.0% of original range, but if you need 92% of range, you just buy a much cheaper used EV.
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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by datavirtue on Monday May 27, 2024 @07:30PM (#40495805)
You would just deal with the reduced range. With a hybrid it's not really an issue.
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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by rayiner on Monday May 27, 2024 @11:22PM (#40497027)
Tesla batteries are close to 90% after 200,000 miles. There is some degradation but it plateaus quickly.
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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by bradlys on Monday May 27, 2024 @08:09PM (#40496046)
It’s a good strategy for someone who doesn’t care about vehicles and mostly sees them as a point A to B thing.

That’s not how many Americans view vehicles though. They view them as a reflection of themselves and as a status item.

$50k to you seems insane but I was eyeing a car that was about $280k in Redwood City last week. It’s been sold. Some of us enjoy cars.

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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by bongodongobob on Monday May 27, 2024 @09:01PM (#40496353)
That's what blows my mind. A married couple in the midwest might make $130k combined and have 2 $60k cars in the garage.
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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by danans on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @10:46AM (#40501221)
If so, they probably didn't buy them outright. They probably leased them.
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