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Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by viraptor on Monday May 27, 2024 @05:54PM (#40495118)
> That’s why normal people don’t buy EVs

Are you sure that the reason isn't the cost of them? I mean, sure charging is one aspect, but is there actually a study that compares the two? There's plenty of "normal" people buying cheap BYDs.

> It’s why so many people own pickup trucks and large SUVs.

That's a very region/culture-specific thing.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by markus_zhang on Monday May 27, 2024 @06:11PM (#40495240)
I'm definitely not an expert but I think BYDs are popular in China and EU because of governmental policies (in China) and geographical reasons (both China and EU are more urban than North America, owning a detached house in China that is closer to good schools, hospitals and infras are unthinkable for most Chinese).

I live in Canada and I really can't see myself driving an EV right now. It doesn't guarantee my not-so-rare but crucial requests:

- Going to some random places for vacationing without worrying about whether there are enough charging stations;

- Going through early spring without adding anxiety about a power outage that sweeps for 2-7 days;

The infra is just not ready. And TBH, I don't think it's going to be ready forever. Infra construction is so corrupted and so expensive in NA that I absolutely have zero faith in it.

Actually, the push to more EVs in China is already a bit problematic due to lack of Infras. Just imagine you are in the middle of Spring festival traffic jam...it's already bad for gasoline cars but it's a nightmare for EVs.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by itsoktocry on Monday May 27, 2024 @06:37PM (#40495446)
>I live in Canada and I really can't see myself driving an EV right now.

We live in a semi-rural part of Canada, and have a bit of a (pleasant, country) commute. I want the most efficient vehicle. I ran the numbers and an EV just did not make sense. If you're driving mostly highway, the overall cost/km isn't that much better than the best ICEs, and the ICE is much cheaper.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by markus_zhang on Monday May 27, 2024 @06:42PM (#40495483)
Oh I wish I could live in such a place too.

Financial-wise, I actually haven't compared the cost/km because of two things:

- I'm not sure how expensive a switch of battery going to be (do we have data on that?)

- Yeah they are outright more expensive than ICEs, and with the current financing climate, not very attractive

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by RavlaAlvar on Monday May 27, 2024 @09:00PM (#40496348)
This what I don’t get about EV

If you live in suburban and commuting to downtown for work, large part of the driving would be high way. Having hybrid makes way more sense in this scenario.

If you live in downtown, you probably don’t need a car or you are parking in a underground parking lot that does not guarantee you a charging plspot

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by viraptor on Monday May 27, 2024 @07:01PM (#40495602)
I'm not sure the urban part is that relevant as a country-scale statistic. Australia is uninhabitable in lots of areas and 90% of people live in cities. I'm still planning an EV in a small town, because I'm never driving more than a single tank anyway and that one time I want to do a cross-country trip, I'll just rent a car for that time.

A more interesting statistic would be something like daily commute https://www.thinkinsure.ca/insurance-help-centre/commuting-t... which recently was ~30min each way on average - very much in range.

On the other hand the power issues could actually improve with enough V2L deployed.

Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by rblatz on Monday May 27, 2024 @06:00PM (#40495161)
This is a thread about US charging infrastructure, BYD does not sell vehicles here and large trucks and SUVs are extremely popular here.
Re:How Many EV Charging Stations Does the US Need to Replace... by viraptor on Monday May 27, 2024 @06:24PM (#40495340)
The thread is about incentives and future possibilities in the US. The current state of the charging network is not set in stone. Neither is regulation, EV availability, etc.

Even then, the question "what are the actual preferences when adjusted for price" is valid even in today's US.