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Re:California Senate Passes Bill Requiring Passive Speed Lim... by bluejekyll on Sunday May 26, 2024 @11:33AM (#40482938)
One of the issues is that posted speeds often don’t match the speed the road allows people to comfortably do. To bring speeds down, the things that are generally most effective are street narrowing, speed tables and humps (to bring to speeds safe in neighborhoods), and then obstacles like protected bike lanes or pedestrian refuge islands.

When a street is designed to allow someone to comfortably do 45 because it’s maybe 2 lanes in one direction instead of 1, but posted as a 25, people will speed on it.

Re:California Senate Passes Bill Requiring Passive Speed Lim... by rainsford on Sunday May 26, 2024 @11:39AM (#40483004)
I'm sort of sympathetic to that argument, but my observation has also been that most drivers are terrible at judging safe speeds for a given road. They go way too slow when they don't need to (a gentle curve on a highway) and drive way too fast for conditions at other times (a narrow twisty two lane road with blocked sight lines and blind driveways).
Re:California Senate Passes Bill Requiring Passive Speed Lim... by TulliusCicero on Sunday May 26, 2024 @11:37AM (#40482980)
Also useful to do stuff like make roads curved and add trees to the side.

A YouTube short I saw the other day about this concept: https://youtube.com/shorts/MyT7F5zuOU4

Re:California Senate Passes Bill Requiring Passive Speed Lim... by dzhiurgis on Monday May 27, 2024 @12:18AM (#40487514)
> add trees to the side

also great way to get someone killed if they meet one

Re:California Senate Passes Bill Requiring Passive Speed Lim... by xref on Monday May 27, 2024 @01:08AM (#40487733)
But a good way to save pedestrians on the sidewalk
Re:California Senate Passes Bill Requiring Passive Speed Lim... by dzhiurgis on Monday May 27, 2024 @04:09AM (#40488726)
Ok kinda makes for city. We had outcry when some country roads were cleared out of trees. Each of them had a life on them.
Re:California Senate Passes Bill Requiring Passive Speed Lim... by sunflowerfly on Monday May 27, 2024 @07:24AM (#40489758)
Also visual narrowing, such as adding trees and light curves. People drive what they feel the road should be and mostly ignore speed limits.
Re:California Senate Passes Bill Requiring Passive Speed Lim... by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Monday May 27, 2024 @10:23AM (#40490989)
Some towns deliberately post speed limits below what drivers would naturally go in order to set speed traps for revenue.