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Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by Brajeshwar on Saturday May 25, 2024 @12:14AM (#40472610)
The problem with such services is, the moment they rear their heads just above the obscure line to even an iota of popularity, they get blocked, blacklisted and what not.

For those who own their own domain for emails, there are multiple ways of doing it - aliases, temporary IDs, filters, etc. Or use such services' backbone/infrastructure that can route the emails but you own the domain.

  `[email protected]` is valid for today.
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by mikae1 on Saturday May 25, 2024 @03:49AM (#40473362)
> The problem with such services is, the moment they rear their heads just above the obscure line to even an iota of popularity, they get blocked, blacklisted and what not.

I never ran into that problem with https://temp-mail.org. They cycle domains constantly.

Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by jasode on Saturday May 25, 2024 @04:19AM (#40473487)
>I never ran into that problem with https://temp-mail.org. They cycle domains constantly.

You didn't run into that problem with temp-mail.org because you happen to use them on websites that don't bother blocking disposable email addresses -- or -- they do try to block them but use simplistic domain name checks.

But cycling domain names isn't enough to fool the more sophisticated disposable/throwaway email address detectors (especially the paid services) because they use extra heuristics of checking DNS MX records ip addresses.

E.g. temp-mail.org assigned the following random addresses "[email protected]" and "[email protected]". Both of those domains are easily detected as throwaway emails because they both share the same MX ip 24.199.65.21 :

- https://verifymail.io/domain/mcatag.com

- https://verifymail.io/domain/javnoi.com

On the other hand, the "@mcatag.com", "@javnoi.com", etc used by temp-mail.org is good enough to get past the websites that copy&paste the code from these StackOverflow answers that just use simplistic string matching : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10976706/how-to-block-di...

It all depends on how much effort and cost the websites want to put into blocking disposable email addresses.

Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by ccbikai on Saturday May 25, 2024 @06:43AM (#40474115)
If they use Cloudflare's Email Routing, the MX IP is more difficult to detect
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by ronnier on Saturday May 25, 2024 @10:58AM (#40475429)
https://temp-mail.org/ Is one of the harder ones to block. The use unique domains with unique Mx records and cycle through ip addresses. All seem to be on digital ocean though
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by SebastianKra on Saturday May 25, 2024 @06:30AM (#40474060)
It seems to me that fewer and fewer websites actually bother to block these domains.

Even if you go through all that extra trouble to maintain a list of banned domains, the user can still just whip out a Hide-My-Email address ending in @icloud.com.

Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by pquki4 on Saturday May 25, 2024 @07:29AM (#40474250)
They could end in @privaterelay.appleid.com which is... easy to block.
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by SebastianKra on Saturday May 25, 2024 @07:58AM (#40474397)
Only those emails generated by Sign In With Apple AFAIK
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by iforgotmysocks on Saturday May 25, 2024 @10:14AM (#40475200)
I don't think sites have problem with alias emails like iCloud Hide My Email. The issue is when they are used for creating spam accounts.
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by evantbyrne on Saturday May 25, 2024 @10:50AM (#40475388)
Do any HN commenters here know of any maintained lists of throwaway email domains?
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by al_borland on Saturday May 25, 2024 @02:22PM (#40476855)
In my experience this seems to be true. For a while it seemed throw away emails were pointless to try and they would all be blocked. But over the past couple years I’ve had a lot of success using mailinator, which is probably one of the better known services which has been around for a long time.
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by ronnier on Saturday May 25, 2024 @11:02AM (#40475454)
Yup. I just added this domain to our disposable list for one of the worlds largest social media apps.
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by mike31fr on Tuesday May 28, 2024 @02:38AM (#40497981)
To those who wonder which social media app Ronnie is talking about, that's Snapchat
Re:Email.ml – Minimalist Temporary Email by ruffrey on Saturday May 25, 2024 @11:24AM (#40475580)
The temp email services which support custom domains help. For example, Mailsac.com. But it has pivoted to more focus as a dev and qa platform.