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Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by DeathArrow on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:35AM (#40463467)
Capitalism and corporatism is not the same. Corporatism is a bit socialist in it's essence.

In classical capitalism, there aren't two or three monopolistic players that dominate each industry, there are thousands of companies competing with each other. And that competition brings costs down, so no outsourcing is needed.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by schmidtleonard on Friday May 24, 2024 @05:14AM (#40464384)
Nope. That's not at all what those terms mean. Capitalism is not "when competition," and socialism is not "when no competition."

Capitalism = private ownership of means of production

Socialism = collective ownership of means of production

Capitalist monopolies are privately owned. A monopoly is no less privately owned than a minor company in a sector with healthy competition, and there is nothing remotely collective about a monopoly. A lack of competition does not in any way mean that "the people" own the organization. Not theoretically, and not actually.

Collectively owned socialist enterprises are not necessarily free of competition. In fact, heated competition over quotas had a lot to do with many of socialism's worst blunders.

Competition does not remotely guarantee that costs are low by international standards either.

Re:How to Build 300k Airplanes in Five Years by dragonwriter on Friday May 24, 2024 @06:55PM (#40471210)
> Corporatism is a bit socialist in it's essence.

They are orthogonal; it is possible to have socialist corporatism, but there is nothing inherently socialist about corporatism (or inherently corporatist about socialism.)