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Re:How to destroy your OS with tar by klyrs on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:02AM (#40463277)
Yeah, no, you shouldn't do that. Kinda my point in writing that, right? But it's terrifyingly commonplace and needs to stop.
Re:How to destroy your OS with tar by prmoustache on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:17AM (#40463361)
I don't even understand the reasoning to do that.

Maintaining that kind of monstruosity of shell scripts that have to work on all kind of OS or linux distros must be a giant PITA compared to the simplicity of making an appimage/flatpak and a set of deb/rpm packages for the most popular distros and clear instructions for port maintainers to do the same for archlinux and BSD systems.

Re:How to destroy your OS with tar by Gormo on Friday May 24, 2024 @05:34PM (#40470666)
One should never pipe curl output into `sudo bash`, but I think you've got things quite backwards here. Barring some extreme edge cases, putting binaries in /usr/bin, icons in /usr/share/icons, config files in /etc, libraries in /usr/lib and so on, are standard across the the Linux workd, and simple utilities that are just archives of binaries, docs, and auxiliary files can easily be deployed to most distros with a common install script.

This is far, far less complex than having to maintain and distribute an entire bundled runtime environment, deal with inconsistent behavior with the local config, etc. Flatpak and AppImage have their use cases, but by no means are they simpler than just putting binaries in the right places -- they are in fact an entire additional layer of complexity.

Re:How to destroy your OS with tar by klyrs on Friday May 24, 2024 @08:28PM (#40471690)
Here's one I spotted a few weeks back, just so you know I'm not making shit up:

https://docs.waydro.id/usage/install-on-desktops (see Ubuntu section)

Re:How to destroy your OS with tar by prmoustache on Saturday May 25, 2024 @06:08PM (#40478210)
If it is not provided by the distribution, those things shouldn't go in /usr/bin|lib|share but in /usr/local/bin|lib|share
Re:How to destroy your OS with tar by Gormo on Sunday May 26, 2024 @01:19AM (#40479926)
That's a reasonable practice, yes, if you're doing a manual direct install. In situations like this, though, I typically just write a quick PKGBUILD script so the package manager can manage it, which means pointing things at the direct /usr/* paths, not /usr/local/*.
Re:How to destroy your OS with tar by vorakl on Friday May 24, 2024 @02:19AM (#40463372)
I don't recall ever seeing this approach with sudo. Is it really becoming popular? It used to be just bash, e.g. `curl ... | bash`. But now there is nothing stopping you from putting sudo in that bash script and expecting with a high probability that NOPASSWD: is also there ;)
Re:How to destroy your OS with tar by klyrs on Friday May 24, 2024 @11:28AM (#40467172)
Indeed, if you preface the curl | bash with sudo apt install, there's no difference!