I'm not dismissing the "claims" because they aren't true. I'm dismissing them because even if they are, it is specious to think that they are relevant to the values represented by Israel vs. Hamas. Hamas is a death cult explicitly documenting its objectives and actions. Israel shares Western values. Obsessive documentation isn't required to compare Israeli society and its aspirations with the hellhole that Hamas has constructed for the Gazans it oppresses.

I didn't realize that western values included apartheid regimes oppressing people. The examples show that this has been going on for a lot longer than Hamas has existed and that Israel is always the aggressor

Are you fine with Israel knowingly and purposefully attacking and killing US naval officers?

First you said I was spewing bullshit which implies falsehoods, but now the things I claim are true but they're just fine? That's nuts

You say they share western values, does that include freedom of the press? Do we kill journalists purposefully in the western world? Which values, precisely, are you referring to? Because I don't see them

Unless you mean to say that they aren't Muslim, which is what I see from a lot of the Zionist crowd

Not to mention, it isn't about the values of Hamas but the value of the lives of the Palestinian peoples. Israel has been oppressing and killing them for decades

You're an intrepid researcher. Watch some of the videos of the Arabs in Gaza cheering the Hamas atrocities. It's not just Hamas. You don't see a difference in values?

Also learn something about the history of the region and not just from the students parroting what they've seen on Tik Tok.

History such as how we needed Israel as opposition to other countries that would potentially align with the USSR? The USSR that no longer exists?

Here's a video based on US government documentation about the liberty and some of the history of Israeli lobbyists going back to the 1960s

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CfABflKvFzk

On the topic of people cheering on death and slaughter, how about Israelis?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-crowds-chant-raci...

Is that the kind of value that you align with? People cheering on the oppression and slaughter within an apartheid state funded by your and my tax dollars

https://www.btselem.org/apartheid

We can wax poetic all we want about history but we need to live in the present and not fund ethnic cleansing